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To: Aria
Natural Born refers to being born on US soil of two citizen parents.

There is nothing in US law to support this assertion. That is why lawsuits alleging this always get tossed. There are only two types of US citizens, natural born and naturalized. This assertion that there are additional types, like "Citizen at Birth" has no support.

18 posted on 01/09/2016 10:22:59 PM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: iowamark

Did you read the article?

It’s too bad the constitution was tested by the “historic” first black POTUS - a constitutional law “professor”. They really did a number on us. Now look at us, you don’t even have to be born here anymore and you can have dual citizenship and still be deemed eligible by your supporters.

We’ve let personal motives overcome the intent of the constitution.


22 posted on 01/09/2016 10:28:22 PM PST by Aria (Abortion = murder, the taking of a human life.)
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To: iowamark
How can a Constitutional requirement be changed by mere statute?

I've been doing some digging today and it's obvious to me that the question of Cruz's citizenship was completely governed by the provisions of the 1952 immigration and naturalization act. Under that act's provisions he would have to fulfill certain residency requirements as a young adult, or his citizenship would go bye-bye.

Natural born citizens' status are not controlled by statute. It's a fact of nature.

If Ted Cruz was a natural born citizen, he would have been a citizen regardless of what our immigration and naturalization statutes require.

He would have been a natural born citizen no matter when in American history he had been born.

Which quite obviously isn't the case. There's no way he would have been even a citizen from birth throughout most of American history, because of the way our statutes read.

I repeat my initial question: How can a Constitutional requirement be changed by mere statute?

23 posted on 01/09/2016 10:34:21 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: iowamark

Congress has naturalization authority. Congress can legislate exactly what is required to make a citizen. Congress can even provide statutes that guarantee citizenship at birth -- and has done so. What Congress cannot due is redefine the language of the Constitution outside the Amendment process. So, yes, Congress can create a "citizen at birth" even if the citizen does not meet the "original intent" definition the Framers understood as "natural born citizen" and used in the language of the Constitution. The citizen has effectively been "naturalized at birth" by statute. So though I don't disagree the lawsuits have been tossed, I believe that was the result of contemporary politics in play and the fear of being labeled "racist". Our Founders had more spine, and I believe they would not have cowered as our "leadership" did.


26 posted on 01/09/2016 10:56:04 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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