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To: Let_It_Be_So; rsobin
Money alone wouldn't explain the true motivations of those engaging in Islamic Jihad, would it?

The Muslims and their leader in the Spite House aren't playing for mere money.

They're playing for ALL THE MARBLES. Win those, and you have all the money.

Look at the Saudi hypocrites, before whom 0Muslim bows...

27 posted on 01/09/2016 8:12:54 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: kiryandil
"Money alone wouldn't explain the true motivations of those engaging in Islamic Jihad, would it?"

Almost always it's money, but only because money is a store of material value, and value is a proxy for attachment to the world. Or ... The World as Jesus called it.

The attachment to material things is at it's base clinging to power, and power is mistaken as the equivalent of life. So the deluded Jihadi's believe they will be one with the power of Allah if they follow correctly. They have of course been manipulated by people with attachment to worldly power.

All of it is delusion and in the case of Islam practiced as written, in fact, Godless.

Mankind is always open to delusion if he is Godless, because he replaces reality with his own fantasies - that is, he mistakes the cognitive ramblings that bubble up from his brain as the capital T Truth - rather than the output of a little computer we have for helping us get food and build shelter. Even for those who achieve their money or power, it is living nightmare, impermanent (Ozymandias). But always, it is hard to exactly characterize the reasons, because the reasons are themselves deluded, chaos.

The important point is that - yes it's usually money, often as a proxy for value/power, always as a proxy for worldly life masquerading as eternal life ... but ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS it is pure sincere delusion. And that's why the leadership on the left is scary. They believe their own fantasies, and this is very very very difficult to cure. This believing-my-own-fantasy, It is the root of all suffering on the planet since the beginning of time.

Wait, actually delusion has it's own root -> the dualism that gives rise to the manifest (knowledge of good and evil), which creates the separating of the one into many ... and then various psychotic attachments. It's sounds Buddhist, but it's not. The initial, original sin, out of which all suffering grew - you might call it the spigot of suffering - is the eating of the apple - the so called 'knowledge of good and evil' - stated another way, the initial fantasy, the initial delusion. In God's world, there are no two.

I love the Bible - right about everything, misinterpreted SO often ... most often when man tries to create a governing body around it's study, or reads it for what he wants to hear. The simplicity and non-drama is what hides all the truth.

But while war may be responsible for the killing of the most people, it is not the cause of the most suffering. In fact, if you kill a person, you have ended his ability to suffer ... so ... what's tragic is the length of time and extent of suffering that people endure ... alive ... caused by this delusion. Whether you are in a Nazi concentration camp. or just a child in an emotionally sick family that has its own set of manifestations ... at different times the extent is different ... the cause is the same (delusion) and the affect is the same.

Always it's like the same cookie dough spread everywhere on the planet ... you can cut out whatever shape you want in the cookie dough ... a tree with sprinkles, a star, a Santa, a war, an oppression - the shape doesn't matter ... it tastes like cookie dough.

The Bible nailed it exactly, but perhaps it should have been interpreted (I am NO scholar) ... the Apple of the Delusion of Good and Evil.

Woooo well wondered on that post, time to get on with Saturday. Ordered the e-book! Thanks for posting!

53 posted on 01/09/2016 8:52:02 AM PST by tinyowl (A equals A, And C Edmund Wright thinks I am an idiot and a Trump Sycophant)
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