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To: A_perfect_lady

Lets dive in and look for the ‘underlying cause’.
Very murky down there!

Coming up for air, I see the Leviathan!

“Whatsoever therefore is consequent to a time of war, where every man is enemy to every man, the same consequent to the time wherein men live without other security than what their own strength and their own invention shall furnish them withal. In such condition there is no place for industry, because the fruit thereof is uncertain: and consequently no culture of the earth; no navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be imported by sea; no commodious building; no instruments of moving and removing such things as require much force; no knowledge of the face of the earth; no account of time; no arts; no letters; no society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death; and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.”

Hobbes, Chapter XIII

This was an old story in 1650!


11 posted on 12/30/2015 9:51:30 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT (BINGO!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Interesting passage.

If you read it again, you can almost picture it as if Hobbes foretold of the ‘contribution’ of the modern Muslim world.


23 posted on 12/30/2015 5:51:57 PM PST by ChiefJayStrongbow
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