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1 posted on 12/28/2015 12:02:26 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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2 posted on 12/28/2015 12:07:58 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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In 1840 crude oil and natural gas production and use were rare. Coal was used in manufacturing, but steam engines were still in their infancy. So the world in 1840 was fossil fuel free for the most part.

Rail roads?

http://www.american-rails.com/1840s.html

By 1840 the states east of the Mississippi River boasted over 2,800 miles of track and this number quickly rose as the decade wore on.

3 posted on 12/28/2015 12:14:38 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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Windmills would not appear until 1854.

Off the coast of Philadelphia, theer was a windmill dating to the mid-eightenth century

Windmill Island was named for a windmill built in 1746 by John Harding and his son. Legendary pirate stories evolved from the execution of three men who were hanged on the island for looting a ship. http://ilovebricks.blogspot.com/2010/11/windmill-island.html

I doubt that was the only one.
6 posted on 12/28/2015 12:32:10 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I am sure I heard fossil fuels were all used up 15 years ago.


8 posted on 12/28/2015 12:43:33 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (Trump and Cruz are not attacking each other. Why don't their follows take note)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I really liked the article and the point it made (technology = good, better) but...

Hydropower was not in common use until after 1849.

Just not so!

Hydropower was first! Most all of the industrial revolution mills started at the Fall Line of the various riverine systems, first in the Northeast and then spreading down the East Coast, where the swiftly flowing water could turn wheels and gears used to weave cloth, mill things, and provide industrial power.

The article the writer linked to (1849) covers only hydro-electrical power--not hydropower. Two separate things.

9 posted on 12/28/2015 12:49:17 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Windmills would not appear until 1854.

Good news, Don Quixote!

12 posted on 12/28/2015 1:32:29 PM PST by Buttons12
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Hydropower was not in common use until after 1849. Solar power had not been invented yet.

Oh yes it was. I have it on good authority that the Sun has been in existence for a huge number of millenia.

Solar power collectors had not been invented yet.

15 posted on 12/28/2015 2:44:48 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is simply majoritarianism. It is incompatible with real freedom.)
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Hydropower was not in common use until after 1849. Solar power had not been invented yet.

They probably had a bit of hydro power with water wheel mills. They actually used a lot of solar power. They stored it in grass, which powered the oxen.

17 posted on 12/28/2015 3:02:42 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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I read a book on the history of light which I can’t remember the name of now but it was amazing what awful choices we had for lighting even up to the early nineteen hundreds. Lighting was expensive as was travel. We take a lot for granted now. Everybody rags on Big Oil and Big utilities but they have made our lives so much better than our ancestors. Thank you Exon, Thank you PG&E.


18 posted on 12/28/2015 3:24:41 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame enobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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Bump


19 posted on 12/28/2015 5:26:51 PM PST by CPT Clay (Hillary: Julius and Ethal Rosenberg were electrocuted for selling classified info.)
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