[xone]

Unfortunately, ‘Whatever’ is the defense of the 2015 version of the Catholic Church. Had the 2015 Catholic Church remained in defense of Western Law, you probably would have a great thread. Where do you see that defense today on immigration, AGW, economics etc?

[o_1_2_3__]

x, you don't understand the Church. You speak as if it's a monolith. It's not. No more than the United States is, "Blacks" are, or "Whites" are.

It's made up of flesh and blood. If you want the Church to be better, go to confession and be a good Catholic.

If you have never been Catholic then, honestly, your criticism of the Church is meaningless except as an expression of your disappointment in the social institution known as "Catholicism". Lots to be disappointed in, but lots to be thankful for. Like Western Civilization.