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Where is Conservatism Headed?
The Imaginative Conservative ^ | October 12, 2014 | Claes Ryn

Posted on 12/15/2015 1:51:06 PM PST by don-o

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To: don-o
Burke was more in line with Our Founders thinking than Locke. In our Founders college education Locke was considered extra-curricular reading not the main topic of their moral philosophy.

Because he didn't think it was important to cite his sources a number of ideas like "Tabula Rasa" and "consent of the governed" were not original to him but instead actually came from Thomas Aquinas.

21 posted on 12/15/2015 2:25:18 PM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: Psalm 144

I strongly believe it is both. It is not an either/or battle. It is an everywhere in every nook and cranny battle. When we ignore one thing, the left seizes control of it and infects everything.

To be a healthy person you must take care of every part and system in your body. Same goes for the big picture of human interaction.


22 posted on 12/15/2015 2:27:20 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: don-o

TO THE WHITE HOUSE...! TO HELL WITH LIBERALS!!!


23 posted on 12/15/2015 2:28:35 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: don-o

Well, today a Trump supporter said that conservatism doesn’t really exist, so...


24 posted on 12/15/2015 2:30:48 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Fair enough, although the healthy culture is the precedent foundation, IMO.


25 posted on 12/15/2015 2:31:19 PM PST by Psalm 144 (100th anniversary of Turkish genocidal jihad against Armenian Christians during WWI)
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To: don-o

I’m sick of the word, it truly has become the last refuge of scoundrels.


26 posted on 12/15/2015 2:31:23 PM PST by heights
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To: CatherineofAragon
Well, today a Trump supporter said that conservatism doesn't really exist, so...

Behold the 21st Century iteration of the Know Nothings.

27 posted on 12/15/2015 2:34:40 PM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: Psalm 144

I can agree with that. It is of course the precedent in the same sense that thoughts precede deeds. But they do also feed off each other. Outside influence can instigate wrong thoughts which then lead to wrong deeds. It is impossible to totally separate the two spheres. They ebb and flow together.

In a theological sense we are all born with wrong thoughts. In a common grace sense, we are blessed by God with some reason and ability to learn right from wrong. We are not as fully corrupt as possible. Even the atheist is capable of doing something good (not in the fullest theological sense, but in the realm of common grace). I think it is the mistake of some to over theologize everything and therefore miss the big picture of our duty and the brilliant way God teaches the world so that on Judgment Day we will all be without excuse — fully responsible.


28 posted on 12/15/2015 2:40:30 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

“But they do also feed off each other. Outside influence can instigate wrong thoughts which then lead to wrong deeds. It is impossible to totally separate the two spheres. They ebb and flow together.”

Agreed.


29 posted on 12/15/2015 2:43:06 PM PST by Psalm 144 (100th anniversary of Turkish genocidal jihad against Armenian Christians during WWI)
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To: don-o
"Behold the 21st Century iteration of the Know Nothings."

It's truly disturbing.

30 posted on 12/15/2015 2:49:29 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
At this point it will take a lot for anyone to defeat Trump for the nomination. The regular season is fast approaching, and bleats of “Hillary will mop the floor with Trump” ring hollow when no Republican can beat Trump and Trump is attractive to people outside the Republican base.

All very well to proclaim Hillary the winner when she is not engaged. When she is engaged, she will have to enter the fray. When she talks, her poll numbers go down.

I will agree that I fully expect that a President Trump will do things that I don’t like. But I do think Trump will be nominated because he wins the delegates it takes to win it. And I think Trump will turn some purple states red and some blue states purple.

And I think he holds all the red states in the process. Trump is not a died-in-the-wool conservative. But I think he will be POTUS, and he is not Hillary and he is not Obama.


31 posted on 12/15/2015 2:56:30 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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But isn’t that the same sort of argument we’ve gotten from the GOPe the last two elections for why we need to nominate McCain and then Romney? The were electable? I just do not buy that. Clearly it was not true, did not work the last two general elections.


32 posted on 12/15/2015 3:24:24 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: FourPeas
You exemplify the problem quite well.

Back at ya. You might want to get Jim Robinson's opinion, it is more inline with my opinion than yours. Just sayin'.

33 posted on 12/15/2015 3:27:14 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Thank you for again proving my point.


34 posted on 12/15/2015 3:31:11 PM PST by FourPeas (Tone matters.)
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To: don-o

Broken Windows.
Conservatives begin fixing the things they can fix. Start with the things close at hand. Ourselves, our families, our neighbors, our communities. Lead by example.
The enemies of conservatism are those who can do nothing but give in to appetites and passions that destroy societies.
A culture has to exist before it can thrive and grow.
The enemies of a healthy culture are everywhere:
open borders, The Fed, homosexuality, race baiting welfare hustlers, government indoctrination schools, social-justice churches . . .the list can go on and on.
It’s time to choose sides.


35 posted on 12/15/2015 3:35:40 PM PST by Macoozie ("Estoy votando por Ted 2016!" bumper stickers available)
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To: don-o
You ripped off "your" column from a 2008 paper published in the academic journal, Humanitas

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36 posted on 12/15/2015 4:10:44 PM PST by Jacquerie ( To shun Article V is to embrace tyranny.)
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To: Jacquerie

What in the world are you talking about?


37 posted on 12/16/2015 4:26:30 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: Jacquerie
From the source (linked in header).

He (Ryn) is chairman of the National Humanities Institute, editor of Humanitas, and president of the Academy of Philosophy and Letters.

So, he obviously reprinted his previous published essay in The Imaginative Conservative..

How did I "rip off" anything?

38 posted on 12/16/2015 4:37:07 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
But isn’t that the same sort of argument we’ve gotten from the GOPe the last two elections for why we need to nominate McCain and then Romney? The were electable? I just do not buy that. Clearly it was not true, did not work the last two general elections.
Same sort of argument, yes - but it is not coming from the GOPe, which is still as appalled by Trump’s candidacy as I was initially. I have come to terms with it. It is what it is. The least you can say for it is that realignment seems possible. Without Trump, it does not seem possible.

39 posted on 12/16/2015 9:51:26 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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