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Trump Is Dangerous for Israel
Conservative Papers ^ | 12/4/2015 | Kalel

Posted on 12/04/2015 7:57:31 AM PST by conservativejoy

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To: conservativejoy

I did not draw these conclusions from Trump’s speech at all. He is much more friendly to Israel than Obama, by far. He said no one is recognizing what Israel has done so far. That signals, the land already given to the Palis is part of the deal. He does not blame Israel for the mess and does not know if Israel wants to deal or not. If they are, he does not know if the Palis will accept anything less than Obama’s extreme demand for a Pali state.

This must be a Cruz or Rubio supporter.


21 posted on 12/04/2015 8:56:31 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: conservativejoy

Apparently BiBi isn’t overy concerned like a concern troll is!

http://www.timesofisrael.com/donald-trump-endorses-netanyahu-for-pm/


22 posted on 12/04/2015 8:57:02 AM PST by dforest
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To: conservativejoy

Bibi and Trump are big friends. Bibi had Trump make a video supporting him in his election.

Inform yourself before speaking.


23 posted on 12/04/2015 8:58:52 AM PST by dforest
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To: conservativejoy; kabar

Would you mind schooling CJ on the Trump relationship with Netanyahu and the real reason Jerusalem is not yet Israel’s capital.

Your post yesteday was very informative.


24 posted on 12/04/2015 9:02:39 AM PST by dforest
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To: conservativejoy

Sigh. Dummies gonna dummy, I guess.


25 posted on 12/04/2015 9:06:42 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (Choose the candidate who will secure the border, or don't bother voting)
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To: SaraJohnson

I tired of the same old Israel must make more concessions and sacrifices theme. There will never be enough concession for the Palestinians. They want Israel annihilated.


26 posted on 12/04/2015 9:13:46 AM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: conservativejoy

He did not say he put “all” the sacrifices. Please don’t lie. He said “he’s not sure” Israel wanted to make the sacrifices, and “I’m not sure the other side does either.” I didn’t hear any condemnation of Israel for “not making sacrificese.”


27 posted on 12/04/2015 9:14:05 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: conservativejoy

No what Trump said is if Israel does not want to make a deal with the fakestinians he’s not going to try to force them. He basically said they may not want to make the concessions that would be necessary to get the Fakestinians to agree to a deal. What else is new?


28 posted on 12/04/2015 9:17:48 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: SaraJohnson
This must be a Cruz or Rubio supporter.

We're seeing this kind of junk on Trump and Cruz threads, people trying to stir trouble. Whatever they say, I tend to think they are Bush or Rubio people hoping to create a fissure where none exists.

29 posted on 12/04/2015 9:23:15 AM PST by marron
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To: conservativejoy
First, Bibi asked Trump to do a video endorsement for him during the last election. Second, Trump has won many honors from Jewish organizations, and he has given large donations to them. Finally, his daughter Ivanka has converted to Judaism, the religion of her husband. Trump's support of Israel is unquestioned.

Anyone who knows the background of the region, understands why no US President has unilaterally supported the move of our embassy to Jerusalem and recognizing it as the capital of Israel. It won't be resolved until there is a resolution of the problem of Palestine.

There are no countries that have an embassy in Jerusalem. They are all located in Tel Aviv and the outskirts.

Congress has passed many resolutions to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem, but they contain a wavier to give the President the authority to decline to do so. It is just kabuki theater. The US will not move our embassy to Jerusalem until there is a settlement of the issues with Palestine.

The United Kingdom position on Jerusalem states, "Jerusalem was supposed to be a ‘corpus separatum’, or international city administered by the UN. But this was never set up: immediately after the UNGA resolution partitioning Palestine, Israel occupied West Jerusalem and Jordan occupied East Jerusalem (including the Old City). We recognised the de facto control of Israel and Jordan, but not sovereignty. In 1967, Israel occupied E Jerusalem, which we continue to consider is under illegal military occupation by Israel. Our Embassy to Israel is in Tel Aviv, not Jerusalem. In E Jerusalem we have a Consulate-General, with a Consul-General who is not accredited to any state: this is an expression of our view that no state has sovereignty over Jerusalem."

The UK believes that the city's status has yet to be determined, and maintains that it should be settled in an overall agreement between the parties concerned, but considers that the city should not again be divided. The Declaration of Principles and the Interim Agreement, signed by Israel and the PLO on 13 September 1993 and 28 September 1995 respectively, left the issue of the status of Jerusalem to be decided in the ‘permanent status’ negotiations between the two parties.

We have essentially the same position as the UK. Trump is actually right about not making a commitment to move our embassy to Jerusalem. It would be far easier to pander to his audience. He didn't to his credit.

30 posted on 12/04/2015 9:35:21 AM PST by kabar
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To: conservativejoy

New way to nail Trump. I think Trump will be Israels friend—better than Obama in every way. New tactic to nail the big guy! Clever plan—he didn’t support jerusalem so he’s a Nazi—yeah, thats it. No, he wants to have a good deal to help Israel. Will they get a better deal from Christie? From Rubio? From Cruz (well, maybe from Cruz).


31 posted on 12/04/2015 9:43:25 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: conservativejoy

He made it clear that he’s not going to be pushey with Israel. That he understands their rejection of Obama’s demands. If there is no deal to be made, he sounded like that would be fine with him but that he’d try and see if it’s possible to bring peace.

But I agree with you. There will never be any peace because the Arabs (and our own Demonrat Party) want Israel gone. If Trump does not already know this, he’ll find out. He’s friends with Bibi so you know he’s not in Obama’s camp.


32 posted on 12/04/2015 11:32:53 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: MNJohnnie
Another day, another set of reckless lying by the Hillary Choir

In other words, you're saying that the pro-Israel position is a radical left-wing Hillary position and that all good conservatives should be anti-Israel.

I was hoping your kind had long since departed this forum.

33 posted on 12/04/2015 11:55:19 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator
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To: hlmencken3; rmlew; Nachum; dervish; Yehuda; Ancesthntr; TorahTrueJew; Yomin Postelnik; ...
Trump is for restoring America FIRST!!! That's what I will be voting for him to do. I'm tired of America being the big brother to Israel and always having to fight Israel's fights. The US should not be the one to initiate any peace agreement. That is just as stupid as asking your friend to ask the girl across the room if he would dance with him.

Well, well, well . . . Now we see what it's all about.

Thank you for your brutal honesty.

34 posted on 12/04/2015 12:00:06 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator
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To: SaraJohnson

Cruz and Trump are clearly working together.

I don’t see a glimmer of light between them on this issue; Cruz is merely more eloquent and plain in how he states things.


35 posted on 12/04/2015 12:05:54 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

You must have been very disappointed to find out Trump’s daughter is an Orthodox Jew.


36 posted on 12/04/2015 12:06:37 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Jewbacca

What does Ivanka’s faith have ANYTHING to do with what I posted???


37 posted on 12/04/2015 12:11:36 PM PST by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: conservativejoy

...how DARE you criticize the one........:)


38 posted on 12/04/2015 12:28:54 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: Zionist Conspirator
One would think that Trump's moral and religious positions would be common knowledge by now.

Trump Tells Christians 'I'm Presbyterian' and 'Proud of It' [Info in thread--PCUSA, which called for divestment against Israel.]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3315372/posts?page=16#16

CNN ANDERSON COOPER GRILLS DONALD TRUMP ON HIS FAITH JULY 22, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_niTGpz-PQ

After 52 seconds, Donald Trump said the following in answer to the question about repentance.

https://youtu.be/P_niTGpz-PQ?t=52s

"Well, I, I like to work where I don't really have to ask for...I like to do the right thing where I don't have to actually ask for forgiveness, does that make sense to you, you know, where you don't make such bad things, that you don't have to ask for forgiveness, I mean, I try and lead a life where I don't have to ask G[-]d for forgiveness..."

After 1 minute, 24 seconds,...

https://youtu.be/P_niTGpz-PQ?t=1m24s

"Well, I try not to make mistakes, where I have to ask for forgiveness, for one thing. So when I'm asked a question like that, it's like, you know, I don't like to make a lot of mistakes."

After 1 minute, 50 seconds,...

https://youtu.be/P_niTGpz-PQ?t=1m50s

"Why do I have to ask for forgiveness, if you're not making mistakes, I work hard, I'm an honorable person, I have thousands of people that work for me, I've employed tens of thousands of people over the years..."

Donald Trump — A Messiah the Angry, Frustrated and Fed-Up Wing Has Been Waiting For
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/3326398/posts

Donald Trump kicks over the money changer tables in the temple in Jerusalem.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3322350/posts

Firestorm erupts over Trump's 'Bible connection'
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3323403/posts


39 posted on 12/04/2015 12:37:11 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in "Idiocracy," example of today's politico.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; Jewbacca
That would be a ping to comment #39, ZC, if someone wanted to bring attention to it. Remember the story of Nebuchadnezzar, the proud president who grazed?

Moo!


40 posted on 12/04/2015 12:41:45 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in "Idiocracy," example of today's politico.)
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