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1 posted on 11/17/2015 1:51:12 PM PST by conservativejoy
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For what it’s worth, my “friends” on FB are saying there is a Refugee Act of 1980 that allow the president power to do this. I didn’t read much further so don’t have details.


2 posted on 11/17/2015 1:58:08 PM PST by bubbacluck (America 180)
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bttt


3 posted on 11/17/2015 1:59:03 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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You want to turn refugees away? Protest like the Occupy/BLM types to. Shut down cities, yell and scream, make noise. At this point our leaders (some) are ignoring our wishes, its up to us to make their lives miserable.


7 posted on 11/17/2015 2:02:53 PM PST by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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Bttt.


15 posted on 11/17/2015 2:24:22 PM PST by Inyo-Mono
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Leftists are constantly trying for force us to do things against our wishes, our convictions, and our good judgment.

This ought to be one of the key issues of this campaign - they want to run our lives - and this is one of the last chances we are going to have to say “hell NO”.


19 posted on 11/17/2015 2:38:39 PM PST by RatRipper (The biggest threat to US national security is our government and those in it.)
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Long winded. Except that Congress passed a law some years back allowing unlimited immigration at the President’s discretion, and any vetting to be what the President says it is. This then became a matter of foreign policy in which the President has the power to make it whatever he chooses. Over foreign policy the governors have no legal say. So on to SCOTUS where the governors stand only a slim chance of winning, depending on the particulars, the case, and any existing case law.

A 5-4 decision for the governors at best, but if Obama really wants this to happen he can always stuff the Court.


21 posted on 11/17/2015 2:48:22 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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Thank you for referencing that article conservativejoy. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

Since USA citizens, evidently including state lawmakers and governors, tend to be clueless about their countrys history, its not surprising that state versus federal government constitutional authority to regulate immigration, a major issue during the presidencies of John Adams and Thomas Jefferson, has been completely forgotten.

More specifically, regardless of PC interpretations of the Constitutions ”uniform Rule of Naturalization” Clause (1.8.4) used to justify federal immigration laws, while state sovereignty-ignoring Adams signed a constitutionally indefensible federal immigration bill into law, both Jefferson and Madison, Madison generallly regarded as the father of the Constitution, wrote that such a law is unconstitutional in the context of state sovereignty. This is evidenced by the excerpts below.

Here is the relevant excerpt from Jeffersons writings.

” 4. _Resolved_, That alien friends are under the jurisdiction and protection of the laws of the State wherein they are: that no power over them has been delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the individual States, distinct from their power over citizens. And it being true as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared, that ”the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people,” the act of the Congress of the United States, passed on the - day of July, 1798, intituled ”An Act concerning aliens,” which assumes powers over alien friends, not delegated by the Constitution, is not law, but is altogether void, and of no force [emphasis added].” Thomas Jefferson, Draft of the Kentucky Resolutions - October 1798.

Here is the related excerpt from Madison's writings from the Virginia Resolutions.

"That the General Assembly doth particularly protest against the palpable and alarming infractions of the Constitution, in the two late cases of the ”Alien and Sedition Acts" passed at the last session of Congress; the first of which exercises a power no where delegated to the federal government, ...

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. . . the General Assembly doth solemenly appeal to the like dispositions of the other states, in confidence that they will concur with this commonwealth in declaring, as it does hereby declare, that the acts aforesaid, are unconstitutional; and that the necessary and proper measures will be taken by each, for co-operating with this state, in maintaining the Authorities, Rights, and Liberties, referred to the States respectively, or to the people [emphasis added]. ” James Madison, Draft of the Virginia Resolutions - December 1798.


25 posted on 11/17/2015 3:11:39 PM PST by Amendment10
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Saving this very good article. Thanks for posting it!


27 posted on 11/17/2015 3:35:04 PM PST by octex
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With regard to calling up the National Guard - NOW WE KNOW WHY Home Land Security has so many weapons — remember BHO said (paraphrasing) we need a domestic army as powerful as the regular army.

ARE YOU SCARED YET?????


29 posted on 11/17/2015 3:36:30 PM PST by RichyTea (To those offended - take off your blinders)
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The states are rediscovering the 10th Amendment. Bout time.


30 posted on 11/17/2015 3:38:28 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Which makes the President's actions completely, utterly, inalterably unconstitutional and illegal.

He spelled "impeachable" wrong. And on this issue, it could stick.

33 posted on 11/17/2015 3:39:51 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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Do it. Send them all to DC.


40 posted on 11/17/2015 4:09:27 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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