[ken5050]

If ND wins out..beats Stanford..they make the playoffs..and TWO of the POWER 5 conferences get shut out..

which all but guarantees that within 2 years they'll move to an 8 team playoff

[sphinx]

Eight has always been the right number. One team per conference; no runners-up; an automatic bid for the power conferences and a couple of spots reserved for the best of the rest. Four is not enough. Four will always leave a couple of worthy teams out due to arbitrary poll results and accidents of the schedule. More than eight is too many, as it would include two and three loss teams and force the inclusion of conference runners-up, which undermines the importance of conference play.

[Jim W N]

How ‘bout if Stanford beats ND?

[phormer phrog phlyer]

We were told last year that Florida State should be in because they were undefeated, even though the ACC was pretty weak. Now they have Alabama and ND over several teams that are undefeated. There is a strong SEC/ ND bias with these guys. It is looking rather bogus.

[wagglebee]

It needs to be an 8 team playoff; there's too much politics in picking just four teams, with eight there will be a lot of disagreement about the specific order, but teams that should have a shot won't be shut out.