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To: Lucy Hamilton; Old Sarge; Jim Robinson; xzins

Unfortunate. I think Lucy brought interesting perspectives from over the pond as they fight the same NWO suffocation and erasure of national sovereignty as we fight over here.

But very intemperate or poorly stated or both, Lucy. If you are reading this, and you intend to go into politics, take this as a lesson on being too free with broad brushes and making universal statements. Most people would respect your position on national sovereignty, outside of the Wolfowitz doctrine neocon types, but then you trashed ALL ‘Yanks’ in your outburst. (And FYI calling all Americans ‘Yank’ is sort of like calling a Scot an Englishman.) You lost an opportunity to make persuasive point. I suggest you listen to some old speeches by Margaret Thatcher, Jeane Kirkpatrick, and Ronald Reagan. Friendly fire is a bad thing. They spoke with precision, and avoided that.

You also stepped into a minefield with regard to how we view our wars. Many of us want OUT of the world policeman role. You find it oppressive to your nation, and I am sure it is. On the other hand, many Americans find the role an unwelcome and costly burden. Not least is the cost in limbs, lives and tranquility.

Our WWII generation is mostly gone now, and we’ve lost them recently. I still grieve over my dad who passed a few years ago. He was a combat medic in WWII. His unit suffered a 90% attrition rate while liberating Europe. His best friend from childhood was in that unfortunate majority, and dad watched while his friend was literally dismembered by German machine gun fire. Dad went career after the war, and volunteered for Vietnam. When he returned he had a lot of nightmares. They were not nightmares about Vietnam. They were nightmares about the war in Europe. They would wake me up in the still hours of the night. I didn’t know what to do, so I did nothing. I failed to tell him how much I loved him for all the he was, and all that he had done.

As the WWII veterans pass away, we now have a quarter century of young people coming back from the Sand Wars, some OKish, some maimed, and some in boxes. And we know - deep in our hearts we know - their services and sacrifices have for the most part been in vain, because to the extent there may have been any policy or objective, it has all been thrown away by the same vile miscreant who threatens your country if Britain dares to leave the EU. We also stand and stare in frustration as that miscreant now mainstreams our military force into assisting existential enemies of America, Europe, and really the entire world.

So the last veterans of the last war we won with decision are passing, and veterans are filing home from the ongoing, eternal Sand Wars which our government has tossed, returning to shabby prospects and undeniable decline. Our nerves are raw from this, and intentionally or inadvertently you scraped our nerves at the wrong time.

I will miss your voice very much. I wish you all success in your endeavors.

CCing Jim Robinson as I believe the decision to zot was his, and I don’t want this post to be construed as criticizing Jim behind his back.

CCIng you xzins, because you are my virtual pastor and because I’m interested in your perspective given your calling.


142 posted on 11/02/2015 8:00:58 AM PST by Psalm 144 (The mill grinds exceedingly fine.)
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To: Psalm 144; Lucy Hamilton; Old Sarge; Jim Robinson
Thanks for the ping, PS144.

My opinion on war is similar to yours if not the same. I don't recall ever interacting with Lucy Hamilton, so I can't really add anything there.

But on the subject of war, this republic is safest when it enters any war with the attitude that we are going to win it and win it as quickly as possible with any overwhelming force necessary. I despise the ‘rotation wars’ that really began with Vietnam, failed again in Iraq, and now confront us in Afghanistan and Syria. By “rotation war”, I mean sending troops on ‘war tours’ and having them stay there for a year, 6 mos, or 3 mos at a time. They then rotate back to the ‘real world’ and live with Big Macs, Shopping Malls, and an entirely disengaged US population. As one Marine said during Iraq, “the Marines are at war; America is at the mall.”

It is immoral to enter any war without the intention to quickly and overwhelmingly win it. Notice I didn't say, “have the intention to win”. If it is important enough to enter war, then it is important enough to turn the entire economy and capacity of the US toward total, unconditional, uncompromising victory with enemies vanquished. Anything less than that is sending an annual allotment of body bags and cannon fodder to satisfy some politician's desire to appear relevant and/or tough.

The same with reprisal strikes. These are less than war, but still, we have an objective, we execute it, we get out.

144 posted on 11/02/2015 8:18:53 AM PST by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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