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To: jonatron

Does someone here knows what constitutes an airspace violation?
1 meter?
100 meters?
1 kilometer?
And is it time dependent as well?


7 posted on 10/10/2015 4:46:40 PM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (No such thing as micromanagement...It's always more like microMISmanagement)
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To: Oscar in Batangas
Does someone here knows what constitutes an airspace violation?

The one shot down violated the airspace.

21 posted on 10/10/2015 6:06:43 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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To: Oscar in Batangas

“Does someone here knows what constitutes an airspace violation?
1 meter?
100 meters?
1 kilometer?
And is it time dependent as well?”

There are no allowances in an airspace violation.

There can be a degree of uncertainty, depending on the precision of radar calibration, underlying terrain, weather/atmospheric conditions etc.

Just what measures are taken by the violated nation, depends on the mental state, attitudes, etc of the command element. Standing orders and recent instructions from national authorities are part of the total picture; readiness and proficiency of the air defense forces factor in also. The international situation, and history between the violated and violating parties (past incursions etc) influence the situation too.

Time dependence is affected by these considerations. Also, proximity of the incursion point to potential targets and assets within the territory of the violated. Time needed to intercept the violator shrinks accordingly.

Forum members appear to have forgotten that Turkey is a NATO member. And it was (at least until the Islamics began adversely influencing the situation) a stable, effective, and motivated member: far superior to Greece and of greater utility in the overall Alliance.

NATO air defenses can be quite sophisticated. The weapons that engaged the Russian craft may not have been fighters. Though if Turkish fighter pilots are anything like their US counterparts, they will try to claim credit.


23 posted on 10/10/2015 6:46:50 PM PDT by schurmann
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