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Thinking the unthinkable: A case for orchestration
10/2/2015 | By Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 10/02/2015 7:23:45 AM PDT by Lazamataz

I am increasingly suspicious -- almost convinced -- that these spree-shootings are orchestrated. Let us consider: Only days after Boehner resigns (but stays around through October, able to defy his base) TWO mass shooting events occur within hours of one another: The college in Oregon, and a lesser-publicized Inglis, Florida mass-shooting.

If Obama seemed angry, I suspect it was because the second shooting was so small. Note how the two shootings make a perfect diagonal across the country, symbolically book-ending us with violence.

It's really hard to be the point-man in this controversial subject -- that the mentally-ill and medicated can and are manipulated to commit acts of mass murder for political gain -- but point-man, I shall be. I'll take the catcalls of "conspiracy theorist" and "tin foil hat wearer" and so on. So long as the dialogue is started, I'll take the heat.

It is actually well-known that low-level microwave radiation can cause deleterious mental effects on the brain:

Effect of low level microwave radiation exposure on cognitive function and oxidative stress in rats.

Non-Thermal Effect of Microwave Radiation on Human Brain

Nervous and behavioral effects of microwave radiation in humans.

Some of the effects are irritability, sleeplessness, and bad decision-making skills. In the 1970's, the Soviets were bombarding the American embassy in Moscow with these radiations. We objected strongly, and our cover-story was that there were passive eavesdropping devices in the walls... but from the publicly-available research, we know that there was an additional -- perhaps primary -- concern. That concern was that our personnel's mental acuity was lessened by these radiations.

This microwave effect is something we already know is factual. This research is public. What research is there, classified as secret (or beyond) on manipulating and directing a mentally-ill, medicated individual to perform acts suggested by a handler?

The CIA has had decades of experience in 'handling' people, by an agent, to perform actions that are in the Agency's best interests. The experience is out there.

Before anyone tells me that Obama and his minions would never allow innocents to come to harm in order to advance a gun control agenda, I remind you of Fast and Furious (the ATF gun-running scandal). In this scandal, semi-automatic firearms were allowed to end up in the hands of Mexican drug gangs. Many innocent people died, slain by the firearms made available by Fast and Furious. Obama has shown quite clearly, the ability to promote the death of innocent people so that he can get his precious gun bans.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: fbi; massshooting; mentalillness; microwaveradiation; schoolshooting; schoolshootings; tinhat
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To: HandyDandy

LOL! I know what you mean.

Such a beautiful woman.

Just don’t do anything foolish.


141 posted on 10/02/2015 10:26:47 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: huldah1776

Third link study available in full...

NERVOUS AND BEHAVIORAL EFFECTS OF MICROWAVE RADIATION IN HUMANS

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/97/4/219.extract?related-urls=yes&legid=amjepid;97/4/219


142 posted on 10/02/2015 10:28:37 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Boogieman
“Much more effective mood alteration techniques were later found. One method that was effective, was achieved in the 1960’s and 1970’s with low-level microwaves.”

No actual documentation of that as far as I know. Just the usual conspiracy theories.

I have referenced three scientific, peer-reviewed articles on this. See the original article for same. Those are just a handful of over 30 similar papers.

143 posted on 10/02/2015 10:29:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: Lazamataz

It’s just another weird coinky dink that the Sandy Hook fire chief’s ex wife Barbara was the school secretary who “hid”, with the nurse Sally Cox (who said Mrs. Lanza was a teacher there), in the closet for over four hours in the same office where the cops set up their HQ. And another weird coinky dink that their son, William Halstead, Jr., is a FEMA Emergency Management Analyst who conducts training drills in that region. Remember that drill CNN misidentified that was occurring at the same time at Lanza’s elementary school a few blocks over. Uh, huh, nothing to see and move along.

If I didn’t have a good supply of tin foil, I might speculate on a second or back up bad guy in these events.


144 posted on 10/02/2015 10:31:31 AM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Boogieman
From this one: NERVOUS AND BEHAVIORAL EFFECTS OF MICROWAVE RADIATION IN HUMANS

treatment. The symptoms and signs commonly described in the Soviet and other studies include headache, increased fatigability, increased irritability, dizziness, loss of appetite, sleepiness, sweating, difficulties in concentration or memory, depression, emotional instability, dermographism, thyroid gland enlargement and tremor of extended fingers. They are regarded as typical microwave-induced functional disturbances of the central nervous system and are called the neurasthenic or asthenic syndrome (the term "neurasthenia" originated in the USA a century ago but has been almost obsolete in this country for some decades (31)). Another frequently described manifestation of microwave irradiation is a set of labile functional cardiovascular changes including bradycardia (or occasional tachycardia), arterial hypotension (or hypertension) and changes in cardiac conduction. This form of neurocirculatory asthenia or vagotonic reaction, known as the vegetative dystonia or autonomic dystonia syndrome, is attributed to neural influence mainly from the parasympathetic division of the autonomic nervous system. A third group of findings, more serious but less frequent than the others, includes hallucinations, insomnia, syncope and inhibition of visceral functions; it also is associated with microwave exposure and is called the diencephalic syndrome.

145 posted on 10/02/2015 10:34:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: Talisker

Your points are well-taken. In statistics, these people who break under that chemical or radiological strain would be outliers, outside the standard deviation, but still would exist.


146 posted on 10/02/2015 10:35:44 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: defconw

Ok, Hanlin is the sheriff, not the father.


147 posted on 10/02/2015 10:37:23 AM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Lazamataz

Outliers - exactly.

And what do predators do? They work the edges of the herd.


148 posted on 10/02/2015 10:37:43 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Lazamataz

Yes, we know that beaming microwaves at people can have harmful effects.

However, it simply does not follow that we can assume microwaves can be used for “mind control”.


149 posted on 10/02/2015 10:39:26 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: bgill; Lazamataz; jsanders2001; All
Truth is stranger than fiction.

And that is a fact.

150 posted on 10/02/2015 10:40:46 AM PDT by Finny (Be prepared to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is a mathematical fallacy.)
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To: Lazamataz

I found one interesting study called “Hyperactivity and disruption of operant behavior in rats after multiple exposures to microwave radiation.”

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/251440691_Hyperactivity_and_disruption_of_operant_behavior_in_rats_after_multiple_exposures_to_microwave_radiation

Microwave rates and hyperactivity, also commonly known as ADHD. So the government gets our kids riled up so they have to take Ritalin which destroys brain cells and keeps them like robots.

http://adhd.emedtv.com/ritalin/long-term-side-effects-of-ritalin.html


151 posted on 10/02/2015 10:41:56 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776
Microwave rates and hyperactivity, also commonly known as ADHD. So the government gets our kids riled up so they have to take Ritalin which destroys brain cells and keeps them like robots.

Man ... that's some crazy stuff. It is every bit as crazy -- and truth IS stranger than fiction -- as people voluntarily drugging their kids, mostly boys (every human society's future warriors) from early childhood in order to make them "calm down."

Fiction is a piker compared to reality. Art imitates life ... not the other way around.

152 posted on 10/02/2015 10:52:42 AM PDT by Finny (Be prepared to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is a mathematical fallacy.)
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To: Boogieman
Not my point, but actually, yes, microwaves CAN be used for mind control, so long as the only control you seek is a degradation of cognitive function.

My point was to demonstrate that there are operative and proven ways to alter human brain activity by use of energy or pharmaceutical means. Couple that with a Handler who knows his or her stuff, and you can create a person who acts out the way you want. This isn't really disputed in the intelligence community. This is a known fact.

Really, the only question is whether Obama would use this for his ends, and would it remain under wraps if he did.

153 posted on 10/02/2015 10:52:51 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: defconw

I’m straight on the Hanlin dude now. He’s the sheriff.

I haven’t turned the tv on today so haven’t been getting updates on this but did notice the change from 26 to 20 years old and the in custody but dead yesterday and chalked it up to the moron msm not verifying their reports.

As for the water bottles, it could be because the school has a contract with a certain vendor. However, why is she purposefully being filmed in front of them? Wonder if they’re the same brand as the stack that suddenly appeared at Sandy Hook FD? There were no tears at Sandy Hook, either.

What’s nagging me is how similar the Toby guy who was tagged as the shooter on yesterday’s long thread is so very, very similar in appearance and background as this Mercer guy. Was one of them Plan A and the other Plan B?


154 posted on 10/02/2015 10:53:06 AM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Finny
Truth is stranger than fiction.

And that is because (as Mark Twain said) fiction has to make sense.

155 posted on 10/02/2015 10:54:54 AM PDT by HandyDandy (Don't make-up stuff. It just wastes everybody's time.)
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To: defconw

Forgot to say, yeah, NO ONE uses MySpace and haven’t for years.


156 posted on 10/02/2015 10:55:12 AM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: bgill
I see that now and it's possible someone put up the wrong graphic it happens, or Foxnews messed it up. Because the man was clearly the same guy they were saying was the "father".

It seems odd to me that the sheriff and the father do seem to have a resemblance. But.... I am at work so I am sifting, has anyone see the "shooters" mother? He's mix raced, or was he adopted I would like to know.

Some other questions as well. I have a source that has the radio traffic. How far is this Roseburg from a major city? The FBI was there before the shooting and so were the US Marshalls. Homeland was there in 30-35 minutes.

At least this time they hid the ID's and sign in sign.

157 posted on 10/02/2015 10:56:56 AM PDT by defconw (Fight all error, and do it with good humor, patience, kindness and love. -St. John Cantius)
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To: Lazamataz

BookMarking


158 posted on 10/02/2015 10:58:02 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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To: bgill
Kind of like Ryan 24 and Adam 20. No one in the neighborhood knew Adam! Adam had black plastic on all his bed room windows. Nothing personal lying around just like “Vestor Flanagan”. Who lives like that?
159 posted on 10/02/2015 11:00:39 AM PDT by defconw (Fight all error, and do it with good humor, patience, kindness and love. -St. John Cantius)
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To: Lazamataz
Really, the only question is whether Obama would use this for his ends, and would it remain under wraps if he did.

.......or, is this methodology, or a version of it, being used on him?

160 posted on 10/02/2015 11:01:11 AM PDT by HandyDandy (Don't make-up stuff. It just wastes everybody's time.)
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