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To: Fantasywriter

Why can’t people see that, humanly speaking, the crucifixion was indeed a failure. His disciples went into hiding, thinking the jig was up. Only after the Resurrection, did the disciples learn what the crucifixion meant. Read the account of the road to Emmaus. Wow!


35 posted on 09/26/2015 12:00:09 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Chaguito

We are a long way beyond the short interlude that immediately followed the crucifixion. We now know that Christ’s death on the cross was the ultimate victory. However, if you can cite one Scripture that refers to Christ’s crucifixion as a “failure,” we’ll talk.


41 posted on 09/26/2015 12:04:22 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Chaguito
Why can’t people see that, humanly speaking, the crucifixion was indeed a failure.

Because it wasn't a failure...Perhaps the disciples at the time thought it to be a failure but they learned better and we know better...

Your pope did not say the disciples thought it was a failure but they were wrong...He let it go that the Crucifixion was a failure, period...And he couldn't be more wrong...

181 posted on 09/26/2015 6:18:23 PM PDT by Iscool (Izlam and radical Izlam are different the same way a wolf and a wolf in sheeps clothing are differen)
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To: Chaguito
Why can’t people see that, humanly speaking, the crucifixion was indeed a failure.

Humanly speaking, the crucifixion of Christ was our redemption.

That's not a failure, no matter how you slice it. It was God's PLAN.

Heck, Jesus knew it was coming and petitioned His Father for a revision, in the Garden, until He realized it was the plan.

Don't call it a failure, bro. You PC, bro?


191 posted on 09/27/2015 4:17:44 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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