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To: Nero Germanicus
In the interest of resolving the birth certificate component of the Obama/natural born citizen issue once and for all, I wish that someone had been able to convince a judge or congressional committee chair that there was a legitimate reason to issue a court order or a congressional subpoena for the vault edition Certificate of Live Birth. But that never happened.

It may be much ado about nothing, but Obama behaves as if he has something to hide. Hawaii behaves as if he and they have something to hide. All his lawyers and supporters behave as if he has something to hide, so color us silly if we think that maybe he has something he is hiding.

Obama may actually be a legal (14th amendment) US Citizen rather than an Alien, but his behavior has certainly been suspicious.

It's like someone running from the cops. They don't know what the guy did, but they figure he must have done something, or else he wouldn't be running.

Even if Obama was born in Hawaii, and his idiot mother was so foolish as to fly him on a plane when he was two weeks old, this still does not make him a "natural born citizen" in the meaning intended by the Declaration of Independence.

But that's another argument.

What better fits the known facts of the Obama life story is that his mother went to Washington or Canada to either abort him or deliver him up for adoption. Two Kansas parents born in the 1920s would have been very unhappy that their daughter had been impregnated by a black man. (A felony in many states at the time.) It has already been pointed out that none of Madelyn Dunham's co-workers even knew she had a grandson until he ran for the US Senate seat from Illinois. This is the behavior of a grandmother who is not proud of having such a grandson, and is consistent for what I would expect of a 1922 born Kansas woman.

Stanley Ann also was content to go to University in Hawaii that first year, but suddenly after Barry was born we find her attending the University in Washington?

What happened? Big family fight is what happened. Dad was furious that she got pregnant from a black man and threw a fit. Stanley Ann was sent to live with aunt Eleanor till the "problem" went away. At a time when Stanley Ann needed her family the most, for some reason she felt the need to be thousands of miles away.

Makes more sense than the "Official" story.

310 posted on 10/02/2015 12:53:20 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Health Bureau statistics data listing the Barack Obama birth in the Honolulu newspapers of August 13 and August 14, 1961 plus Barack Obama Senior’s student visa extension interview with Immigration and Naturalization Service on August 31, 1961 in which Obama Senior names Honolulu as the birth place of his son have been impossible hurdles for eligibility challengers to overcome over the last seven years.
If there was funny business, it obviously goes back to 1961.
If there was fraud, my money would be on the Attending Physician at Kapiolani (David Sinclair) as a favor to the Dunhams, sticking a falsely created birth certificate in the weekend birth certificate batch that then went on to the Health Bureau.
The eligibility challengers have to prove birth somewhere else, Obama doesn’t have to prove birth in Hawaii because since 2008 the state has vouched for him based on what was in their files and none of the current Hawaii officials was around in 1961.


322 posted on 10/02/2015 3:02:33 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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