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1 posted on 09/11/2015 6:39:55 PM PDT by Steelfish
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LOL!~ Jonah may not realize it but he just did a great Boehner impression - I could visualize the twisted visage with tears streaking down his quivering cheeks.

Kleenex, on aisle Goldberg!

56 posted on 09/12/2015 4:10:08 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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Another good article. The thing that confirms to me the irrational basis for Trump support - and that many of his supporters realize this deep down inside - is the virulence of their attacks on anyone who even questions their hero. Just look at the comments on this thread. As Goldberg pointed out, Trump supporters never really defend his ideas (partly because it’s a little hard to say what they are or if they even exist) but just attack the questioners - immediately, without answering any questions, but simply hurling insults.

Obama has stirred up a lot of anger and division in this country, and Trump, showman that he is, has found a way to ride it. His followers seethe with anger and have projected all their hopes for revenge onto him. Reason has nothing to do with it - a frightening thing in a democracy.


57 posted on 09/12/2015 4:13:10 AM PDT by livius
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I will admit, I think a Trumpian mass deportation of every illegal alien is unworkable and unwise, so if that’s your yardstick, I guess I’m the sell-out

Pretty much stopped reading right there.

61 posted on 09/12/2015 6:09:35 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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BFLR
64 posted on 09/12/2015 6:18:45 AM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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I have seen a number of very thorough defenses of Trump and what he stands for. I have also seen some that are simply knee jerk and lame.

Jonah takes the lame and rebuts them, but ignores the good and better arguments.

This is the fallacy of Contradict Confidently. It works by vigorously denouncing each of your opponent’s arguments as fallacious but just select one or two that you can easily defeat to prove the point. The harder arguments—the better cases, so to speak, are ignored. You concentrate on the easily rebutted points, even if there are only a few, and spend all your time by speaking or writing only about those, and lead the listener/hearer into the idea that that is all your opponent can muster. Then assume that you have won.

MY LOGICAL ARGUMENT

I don't even attempt to defend Trump. I WANT an assault, a full offense against the GOPe. I only want to see the RINO party broken in true defeat. I believe when the democrats win, the RINOs are fine with that because they still get power and money as "the loyal opposition" and are more than glad to become the convenient democrat and media punching bag as they still get "paid".

For years this win/lose between the democrats and RINOs have been a virtual shell game for the rest of us. The "pea" is in the same "shell" all along. The Uniparty.

They need a defeat from the inside, one which breaks the lobbyists, moneymen, bag men and all the other enablers of the Washington money cabal. Trump has his own money--he cannot be bribed like so many we've in the past.

Even if Trump turns on us after the election, well, we've had that happen since George Herbert Walker Bush with every Republican who won. If it breaks many of these RINOs from attaining power, it is a good deal in the long run.

71 posted on 09/12/2015 7:12:32 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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Jonah’s strawdog RINO factory is working overtime in this latest squishy screed. Blah!


74 posted on 09/12/2015 7:38:59 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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Get over yourself Jonah.


92 posted on 09/13/2015 10:15:38 AM PDT by proust
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Oh, another Trump bashing article by that twerp Jonah Goldberg? Nah, thanks, I’ll pass.


93 posted on 09/13/2015 10:17:15 AM PDT by uncitizen (i hate gutless people, too.)
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bkmk


99 posted on 09/13/2015 9:31:01 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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