Posted on 09/11/2015 6:39:55 PM PDT by Steelfish
Trump needs to tell us how he plans to identify, locate, detain millions spanning several states, and deport over 11 million illegals housed and fed in encampments across the nation, and send them over to more than 20 countries around the world using a fleet of aircraft, ships, and buses and in the face of an army of lawyers rushing up and down the steps of federal courthouses securing a confetti of injunctions supported by a maudlin media showing pics of crying children ripped apart from schools etc ? Remember 40% of illegals are those who have overstayed their visa and cannot be tracked.
So unless Trump can realistically tell us how he plans to get there he may as well tell us that he plans to send over the 11 million plus illegals to Jupiter.
He did tell us all those things.
You just weren’t able to comprehend the depth of his answer.
I voted for McCain and Romney(the nominees...)in 2008 and 2012.
How low can I possibly go after that?
Donald Trump looks like a huge step up after that.
Well I’m glad to see Jonah Goldberg has gone from denial to anger. I think Jonah’s close friend Andrew Breitbart would be very happy with a Trump candidacy.
Is Goldberg still rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic?
meh
NRO is a rag inline for the GOPe
Those who don’t get it, don’t get it. I’d rather lose with a loudmouth saying what needs to be said than win with a a spineless, “compassionate” career politician who is adored by all the money men and editorial boards alike.
In short, I’d rather go down with guns blazing than meekly step aside again. Judging by Trump’s success, I don’t think I’m alone in that feeling.
I think I finally pinpointed the bulk of Trump’s support.
From what Goldberg mentioned, I’d say there’s about 10-15% of real conservatives that support Trump under the guise of “giving him the benefit of the doubt” even against their better judgement, but are upfront and honest about it.
The vast (and I mean VAST) majority of Trump supporters as evidenced in this thread and elsewhere appear to be Ron Paultard retreads. They act like a-holes, are anti-free trade, usually anti-Israel and pro-isolationist, and behave in a totally unacceptable manner, very similar to Paul’s minions that scoured the internet trying to rig every online poll. Trump’s emotional maturity level matches their own, they can dish it out, but they can’t take it.
These people have lost all sense of reality and couldn’t win a debate on the issues if they tried. I read what both Bobby Jindal and Jonah Goldberg stated. What they said about Trump can be backed up by facts. The Trumpsters are totally clueless in their idol worship. They resort to attacks and pointing to polls, all Paultard tactics from the previous elections. Only this time, they’ve managed to manipulate a small segment of actual conservatives in. My argument has been, like Jindal and Goldberg and others have said: If we’re going to take the GOPe down, can we at least get solid conservative leadership to replace them? Otherwise, what is the point? Trump fails on all aspects of the issues that matter and Goldberg is right that Trump would cave on immigration once the illegals lawyer-up and get the SCOTUS the stop potential deportations, after which Trump would call it “The law of the land”.
But these days, if someone points out the obvious (Trump’s not a conservative) they get labeled as a GOPe/RINO hack. It’s the same faulty reasoning used on other issues such as climate change where if one doesn’t believe the lies,er,science, then that means one wants the planet to be engulfed in a solar apocalypse brought on by global warming. Or if one doesn’t believe in Universal Health Care, it means one must want grandma to get pushed over the cliff.
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So where are all those daily National Review articles discussing how Yeb! doesn’t need the conservative base?
Don’t hold your breath. There won’t be any. Funny how NR doesn’t attack ¡Jeb! like they do Trump.
Telling, eh?
Hah! Didn’t bother to read him, is probably same crap he has been writing for months.
I am really taking a liking to Trump. I don’t care what names he is called or about any of the labels. How the hell can he be worse than anyone else running?
If we follow the money it likely leads to ¡Jeb! and his allies. The old saying, 'Always follow the money..."
You could not have said it better. Reason appears to have flown out of the window.
Who do you see getting the nomination? Carson? One of the single-digit boys in an amazing come-from-behind romp?
I really am curious. So many people "don't see Trump getting the nomination".
I just wonder what their wonderful future-vision beholds. You seem to have it. Please enlighten me.
Funny indeed.
I’m not defending Trump (nor am I voting for him in the primary). I’m pointing out that you’re wrong to accuse him of attacking conservatives when in fact he’s targeted the GOPe.
Words have meaning. And to distort Reagan in a false assertion that Trump is targeting conservatives is flat-out B.S.
If you had an ounce of decency, you’d acknowledge your mistake and retract the lie. If you don’t, it’s clear you are just a troll who will say or do anything in order to support your favorite candidate, including lying about Trump.
Quite frankly, there’s no need to lie about Trump. There are plenty of flaws there without overreaching.
Kleenex, on aisle Goldberg!
Another good article. The thing that confirms to me the irrational basis for Trump support - and that many of his supporters realize this deep down inside - is the virulence of their attacks on anyone who even questions their hero. Just look at the comments on this thread. As Goldberg pointed out, Trump supporters never really defend his ideas (partly because it’s a little hard to say what they are or if they even exist) but just attack the questioners - immediately, without answering any questions, but simply hurling insults.
Obama has stirred up a lot of anger and division in this country, and Trump, showman that he is, has found a way to ride it. His followers seethe with anger and have projected all their hopes for revenge onto him. Reason has nothing to do with it - a frightening thing in a democracy.
Reason has nothing to do with it - a frightening thing in a democracy.
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Democracy is mob rule. All democracies have failed. We are a REPUBLIC! “And to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.”
Neither Jindal, Carson nor Walker are GOPe (whatever the hell that is). Do you want me to cite Trump’s criticism of them? Do you want me to show you how he is using liberal talking points to do it? If you had an ounce of decency, you’d acknowledge your mistake and retract what you said.
YOU’RE calling ME an Archie Bunker. Why you’re nothing but a liberal in disguise! That’s exactly the liberal way of going after a conservative opponent! I guess that would make you Meathead!
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