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Does Carson Have A Romney Problem?
9/11/2015 | self

Posted on 09/11/2015 8:45:41 AM PDT by conservativejoy

Last election millions of evangelicals stayed home rather than vote for a Mormon candidate whose faith did not adhere to Orthodox Christianity.

This election, we have another candidate whose faith is also outside the boundaries of traditional Christianity. Many people do not know that Dr. Ben Carson is a Seventh Day Adventist. Those that do, know little or nothing about this religion, or that it falls within the definition of a cult.

Seventh Day Adventism was founded by a woman named Ellen G. White, a self proclaimed Prophetess. White's writings are published in the Seventh Day Adventist translation of the Bible, The Clear Word. Her writings are woven into Scripture and are given the weight of the Scriptures themselves. Strict adherence to the teachings of Ellen G. White is required.

As with any cult, Jesus is diminished as something less than Deity. Similar to what Jehovah's Witnesses believe, Adventists also believe that Jesus was an archangel. There are parallels here, too, with Mormonism which teaches that Jesus and Satan were brothers, both angels.

Adventist use much of the terminology of traditional Christianity, but define those terms entirely differently. Adventism teaches Tritheism just as the Mormons do, as opposed to the Holy Trinity of Christianity.

For those interested, there is an abundance of information on the Seventh Day Adventist religion. The question for those looking at the candidates is, does it matter if a potential President is influenced by a false religion?

Speaking for myself, the answer is "ABSOLUTELY"!


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To: Genoa

I think adherence to the Nicene Creed is foundational to Roman Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant believers. And non-adherence is what puts Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons, and Seventh Day Adventists outside the pale of conventional Christianity. That being said, it would not be the first or even the second reason why Dr. Carson isn’t my choice. As long as he’s not a crypto-Muslim, considering we’ve been in a more or less constant state of war with Islam for a millenium and a half, how the man chooses to worship God is his business.


41 posted on 09/11/2015 9:15:24 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: spacejunkie2001
With respect, that is not true. Any religion that diminishes the Deity of Christ is a cult. They do not use the Bible, but a combined book of the teaching of Ellen G. White and her interpretation of the scriptures, entitle "The Clear Word". If you are interested: Link to Cult or Christian
42 posted on 09/11/2015 9:15:47 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: John S Mosby

You should know what you are talking about before you spout lies. This is from the SDA website:

GOD IN THREE PERSONS

God in Three Persons
BLESSED TRINITY
Jo Ann Davidson

Belief in a God of three persons is one of the most demanding biblical teachings. Christianity is the only world religion that makes this claim. The doctrine of the Trinity is truly distinctive of the Christian faith, crucial because it deals with who God is, what He is like, and how He works. Christians believe the doctrine is necessary to do justice to the testimony of Scripture, the primary source of our knowledge of God. We must speak concerning God in the terms He uses. Biblical evidence has three facets: (a) there is one God; (b) three-in-oneness; and (c) three persons who are God.

http://www.adventist.org/beliefs/god/trinity/article/go/0/god-in-three-persons/


43 posted on 09/11/2015 9:15:50 AM PDT by glabbe
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To: conservativejoy

Gee.
Not voting for a socialist who was working to force The boy scouts to accept gay scout masters and inflicted the Massachusetts school system with a radical gay activist leader and who implemented the prototype for Obamacare is so much worse than the socialists who thought all those issues would be great to tie to the Republican party.

Homosexuality my be your agenda, but I support all those who oppose that agenda when the going gets tough. Like Carson.


44 posted on 09/11/2015 9:17:08 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: conservativejoy

They’ll come up with every possible reason people might not have voted for Romney except the correct one.


45 posted on 09/11/2015 9:17:11 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Catsrus

Are Adventists Evangelical?

https://www.ministrymagazine.org/archive/1995/02/are-adventists-evangelical


46 posted on 09/11/2015 9:18:01 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Nifster

No, I m not advocating that anyone not vote. Now is decision time and the facts need to be out so that voters make an informed choice.


47 posted on 09/11/2015 9:18:21 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: FewsOrange
“Last election millions of evangelicals stayed home rather than vote for a Mormon candidate whose faith did not adhere to Orthodox Christianity. “ Is there any evidence for this? Yes, speaking. I did not vote for Romney, nor will I vote for any Mormon for my president, NOR Seven Day Adventist. As an orthodox Christian (not referring to the groups that use that name, the eastern Orthodox). Christian truth comes first, not whatever I may believe politically.
48 posted on 09/11/2015 9:19:25 AM PDT by sasportas
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To: Genoa

If you mean do they evangelize -yes they do. But, if they are teaching doctrines not true they are turning people away from the true gospel of Jesus Christ.


49 posted on 09/11/2015 9:20:16 AM PDT by Catsrus (The Great Wall of Trump - coming to a southern border near you.)
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To: Catsrus

Read the article.


50 posted on 09/11/2015 9:20:42 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Seruzawa
The RATS love it when religious people argue about the number of angels dancing on a pinhead. This is one reason that have a Muslim in the White House.

Here we go again. Troll alert.

51 posted on 09/11/2015 9:21:26 AM PDT by oldbrowser (The kangaroos have taken over the supreme court.)
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To: sasportas
“Last election millions of evangelicals stayed home rather than vote for a Mormon candidate whose faith did not adhere to Orthodox Christianity.“ Is there any evidence for this?

Yes, speaking. I did not vote for Romney, nor will I vote for any Mormon for my president, NOR Seven Day Adventist. As an orthodox Christian (not referring to the groups that use that name, the eastern Orthodox). Christian truth comes first, not whatever I may believe politically.

52 posted on 09/11/2015 9:21:35 AM PDT by sasportas
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To: Genoa
They say they believe in a lot of things, but their definition lines up with Ellen G. White's teachings and not the Bible.

Link to Christian or Cult

53 posted on 09/11/2015 9:21:43 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: conservativejoy

Romney being a Mormon had almost NOTHING to do with him losing the election.

The GOP base simply was not excited about a candidate that was forced on us when 70% wanted someone else.


54 posted on 09/11/2015 9:22:14 AM PDT by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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To: conservativejoy

The SDA’s have doctrines I don’t adhere to, and Ellen G. White has been wrong, I don’t deny it. But to equate SDA’s aberrations with Mormonism’s is over the top. Today, their statement is clearly trinitarian and they are well within the general umbrella of Christianity, aberrant as they might be. I’ll take a serious Adventist over a nominal mainline protestant or Catholic any time. (By the way, I don’t support Carson.)


55 posted on 09/11/2015 9:26:58 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Genoa; Catsrus

Ministry Magazine? This is a Seventh Day Adventist publication.


56 posted on 09/11/2015 9:29:14 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: Genoa

I read to the part where it said the office work of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is God - not an office worker. He is the 3rd person in the Trinity and equal to the Father and Son in the Godhead. That right there is false teaching. The Holy Spirit speaks, he makes intercession for us - He convicts of sin, He can be grieved, etc. Therefore, He is not an office worker.


57 posted on 09/11/2015 9:30:13 AM PDT by Catsrus (The Great Wall of Trump - coming to a southern border near you.)
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To: Catsrus

You’re cracking me up.


58 posted on 09/11/2015 9:32:00 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Catsrus

This may not be an issue for a lot of people, but when someone is leading this nation and bows their head to pray, I don’t want them to be praying in the name of a false Christ.

We have had a disastrous time with a heathen in the White House. If we don’t have someone of true faith to lead us soon, we will be finished. Divine Wisdom is required to lead us out of the mess we are in.


59 posted on 09/11/2015 9:36:32 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: Catsrus; conservativejoy
....Barnhouse published his conclusions in the September 1956 issue of Eternity magazine in the article, "Are Seventh-day Adventists Christians?"[2] In it, they concluded, "Seventh-day Adventists are a truly Christian group, rather than an anti-Christian cult."[3] This greatly surprised its readers, and 6,000 canceled their subscriptions in protest![4] Following this announcement, Adventists were gradually invited to participate in Billy Graham's crusades.[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Questions_on_Doctrine

60 posted on 09/11/2015 9:38:20 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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