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To: Jan_Sobieski
What Europe is witnessing is a deja vu of ancient Rome. The rationalists Voltaire and Gibbon attributed the fall of the Roman Empire to the defeatism inspired by Christianity

I am sure some Christians on this forum will be upset about that remark.
But honestly, I have mentioned on this forum my concern about the naivete of Christians when it comes to Islam.
Starting with the Geo. Bush's "Islam is religion of peace, nonsense

Christianity is a girly boy religion compared to Islam.

To apply the Christian love one another, forgive and forget , pray for sinners etc to Muslims is a fatal mistake.
Practicing Muslims are out to subjugate , convert or kill us Infidels.

The only hope for survival is to understand that and stand up to the Muslims, and kill them if necessary. And if you are so inclined, pray to your God for forgiveness just in case you screwed up doing that.

In the meantime "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition." -tom

10 posted on 09/07/2015 3:52:55 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: Capt. Tom
Agreed! Our Christian forefathers understood Islam and stood steadfast against it. Thomas Jefferson, Jan Sobieski, Charles Martel, Charles Napier, Black Jack Pershing, etc. all understood Islam and had no problem sending troops to destroy them.

However, Hitler also understood Islam and desired its attributes...
13 posted on 09/07/2015 4:00:28 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Capt. Tom

I have read Gibbon’s comments on the subject. He seemed to be saying, and I agree, that Christianity resulted in men putting God first and not the Caesars. Since they followed God’s Word, they were not willing to die for some corrupt despot in Rome. I agree with them. The fall of the Roman empire was good for the west. The Western World became much more powerful when they were able to have their own nations...


15 posted on 09/07/2015 4:07:11 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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