One has a different perspective when one sees the planting pattern.
Posted on 09/04/2015 2:21:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
One has a different perspective when one sees the planting pattern.
Hmm, they used llamas as pack animals, if memory serves. The presence of equids in the Americas prior to Columbus is (ahem) controversial. There used to be someone around here who argued that I must think the tribes were dumb to not realize they could ride horses which escaped from the Spanish — but that their tribal ancestors hadn’t, eating them all instead.
You done been an exceptionally evil person.
This thread and its pic reminded me of some terraces carved into nearly vertical rocky mountainsides by Hittites way back in the day. So, I went looking for the pictures just to see if there were any similarities.
Never found the pics. My google-fu wasn’t up to snuff. But!!!
I did wander into the Aegean Apocalypse and the following Greek Dark Age. The Sea People that ravaged the Med AO at that period.
Who were the Sea People? Who were the Pelasgii? Where did the Hittites come from? Why’d they pick such a barren place to settle? What the heck traumatized them so badly that they’d make their laws and culture harsh enough to make the Spartans seem like sissies? Where the heck did they go when they abandoned their capital (some 40k peoples?)
It’s now 5:45 AM and I just can’t stop inter-netting on these silly questions.
Never mind the rest, such as who were the Danaan Greeks? Where’d they come from? Are they related to the Tuatha de Danaan of Irish myth? Then there’s the Dorics. Same stuff. Where’d they come from? Herotodus seems to say that the Hellenes were were Pelasgii and the Dorics were Hellenes. Shouldn’t that be the other way around? Oh, and I found references to letters written back in this period that indicate that there were Greeks that believed they were Israelites that wandered off prior to the Isaelites migrating into Egypt.
And then back to who the heck were the Sea People? what role did the Sardinians play in all that?
I hate it when people do this to me. Trigger a solid manic that turns obsessive. It. Is. All. Your. Fault!!
Other than that, I’m having a lot of fun with this stuff. Too bad I don’t know enough to sort through the crap and find myself some nuggets that are reliable info.
>>And then back to who the heck were the Sea People?
An intriguing speculation results from reading Felice Vinci’s “The Baltic Origins of Homer’s Epic Poems”.
I’ve seen Llamas described as the goats of South America. Never thought of them as serious beasts of burden. When one considers the vast extent of agriculture evident around Cusco for example, what with the little a Llama can carry, the numbers required would probably have resulted in very little produce reaching the market...not to mention the effort required in creating the layered growth medium (drainage, compost, fertiliser?)
I’m thinking slaves maybe.
“... the Incas were magnificent engineers and agriculturists.
In places terraces were built up dangerously precipitous hillsides with massive inclined walls supporting a metre deep fill of stones for drainage and a metre of excellent soil, often brought in from elsewhere.
Clay was used for foundations to retain water and to encourage roots to decay so that the biological activity would keep the soil a few degrees warmer than the chilly mountain air all year round.
Incan terraces still occupy about a million hectares of land but three quarters of them are abandoned...
http://www.ipsnews.net/1997/05/peru-ancient-inca-irrigation-works-restored-to-raise-record-crops/
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The amount of physical labour required is simply astonishing
I see three specks and by golly I think they are people. Wow, that gives some perspective on how enormous these structures are.
When they said the craters were similar to open pit mines I remembered a visit to one of the world’s largest mines in Utah when I was a kid.
Looking down at the bottom a giant crane was working and it looked smaller than a toy. So I was looking for something to give the Peruvian craters some perspective.
What surprises me is that the Alien Astronaut guy hasn’t featured them on one of his shows. You have to wonder why they would move all that earth and rock? and the theory that they were just using it as a bio research location with different temperature zones is crazy IMO.
There are all sorts of theories about the Sea People. Obviously they were accomplished sailors who arrived on the Levant coast and Egypt as invaders so you’d look to the northern part of the Med.
So they could be sea-faring peoples from the Greek peninsula or islands. Might be forerunners of the Phoenicians.
Send a private email to Sunken Civ and he’ll give you links galore along with his educated opinion. He might even start a new thread to deepen your obsession. :-)
I have been to that Utah mine. It’s huge!
I went to it around 1952-53. It was huge then. If it is still open and working, it must be visible from Space by now.
IIRC they said it is visible from space when I took the tour.
Imo, this subject area is one of the more fascinating in history.
There was, apparently, so much going on and so little solid understanding.
Thanks for the suggest on Sunk. But, I’m already mooching too much from him just by enjoying all the links he provides the ping lists.
>>>>And then back to who the heck were the Sea People?
>>An intriguing speculation results from reading Felice >>Vinci’s “The Baltic Origins of Homer’s Epic Poems”.
I missed this earlier.
Thanks for the head’s up on the book.
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