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To: Paleo Pete; 2ndDivisionVet; Olog-hai; justa-hairyape; Leaning Right; BradyLS; Thunder90; dila813; ..

Thank you for your reply Paleo Pete and thank you to everyone else. Very interesting. The feeling I am getting from you all is similar to what Jim Rogers said in his book Adventure Capitalist (where he drove around the world in a custom Mercedes SUV before Mercedes built SUVs).

He said (in so many words), that the USSR and the USA kept order in a world of dis-order and now after decades of pent-up hostilities between and within multiple nations everywhere, he sees much more dis-order in the future. But the hardest working people in the world according to Jim: the Chinese.

So the endgame that Paleo Pete refers to in his post is what I feel also, China and Russia would like to take us on. (Now that we have weak executive and legislative leadership, piles of debt, etc.)

If we could ruin most any country with just one of our trident submarines firing half her silos (of nuclear missiles), how might the China, Russia and others take us on asymetrically? System hacking? Psych-ops (like on campuses), proxy wars?


20 posted on 08/24/2015 11:36:32 PM PDT by whiterhino
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To: whiterhino

They would do exactly what they have been doing. And you cannot stop them until Obama is out of office. He is too flexible now.


21 posted on 08/25/2015 1:35:32 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The use of the name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: whiterhino

One thing I didn’t mention. Our government has been decreasing our military, while both China and Russia are increasing theirs. Bad move space cadet...

And they know this. Really bad. IF you think their leaders don’t have our news sitting there ready to view or read when they wake up, guess again. They know what happens here minutes after we do.

What will they do? I can only guess, but the recent digital attacks are a good beginning. Somebody, and it looks like China is a good possibility, has a lot of our classified information after recent hacks. That tells them a lot.

If I were to guess, I’d say a serious Electromagnetic Pulse, (EMP) attack would be first. Shut down 1/2 to 2/3 of the US power grid, our military is already weak, half the battle is won. Wide scale rioting and looting would be immediate, not many people are prepared for months of no electrical power, many don’t even know how to function without it. I have little doubt Americans would be killing their neighbors in days.

I’ve heard but not seen proof China was building a military base in Mexico not long ago, that would put them in a position to launch a military effort in no time.

At the same time, the economy would probably crumble, no power means no banking. ATM not working, gas pumps not working, all computer systems down and this would be for months, not days. And that’s before you even consider what would happen at the local level. What would you do if your car wouldn’t start? Phone won’t work, power is out, no refrigerator, no AC, no blender, not even a window fan...

A well organized military attack could finish the country off without a lot of trouble, the country would already be in chaos. and it’s already weak.

And I’m no expert, I’ve only scratched the surface.

And consider this...Nostradamos, Isaac Newton and Edgar Cayce all predicted a major collapse of our society, including a world wide war on a scale never before seen. Cayce said it would be neighbor against neighbor, brother against brother. Nostradamos predicted cannabalism. I can’t remember all of Newton’s predictions, I only found out about it recently. But all predicted a major collapse of society and world wide war, famine, disease, crop failures, and many people think they are seeing indications this is in progress right now. One other too, I can’t remember his name, who I also found out about fairly recently.

It’s not looking good for the home team...and I think the first t hing to happen will be an EMP attack to take out the power grid. A ;laptop was found on the Mexican border last year that had numerous encrypted files including many in Arabic, some of them pertaining to chemical warfare, and we have no idea who got into this country but left the laptop...

Scary stuff...


22 posted on 08/25/2015 8:27:04 AM PDT by Paleo Pete (I'm with the bomb squad. If you see me running, CATCH UP!)
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To: whiterhino

The USSR kept order? No. They were always looking to destabilize things while the USA checked their efforts; Rogers seems to not understand revolutionary Marxism one whit. That is why the fall of the USSR helped usher in Pax Americana, which the liberals undermined by building up Red China, who have been allied more or less with the jihadis for quite a while just as the jihadis used to be allied more or less with the USSR in the “enemy of my enemy” scenario against the US.

The asymmetric warfare you are describing was already going on by Skousen’s time; it’s outlined in his book.


24 posted on 08/25/2015 10:09:34 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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