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To: BobL

Romney through that out there during the primary. Its a ‘wonkish’ word that contributed to his image of being ‘stiff’ in my opinion. But, should our immigration laws actually be followed as intended (No work, school, or benefits without citizenship that is provable), illegal aliens would have no choice, but to head back home....or self deport.

Think about it. If you moved to say , Japan, and tried to find work, enroll your kids in school, or apply for welfare, the Japanese government would ask for proof of citizenship. When you could not come up with the proof, they would send you packing. In time, you would head back home because there was nothing there for you.

I’m a big Donald Trump guy, but I do think it would be smarter of he just emphasized enforcing and/or reforming existing laws to better help America. If we made e-verify mandatory (with harsh penalties on employers for breaking the law-as they do in Germany) for employment, benefits, and schooling, anyone here illegally would have to leave because there would be nothing here for them. Or, as Romney would say, “They would simply self deport.”

‘Deporting people’ implies a meanness. ‘Enforcing laws’ implies a ‘fairness’. Of course, people here illegally should be deported, but sometimes in subtlety, you’ll find the art of winning the argument.


5 posted on 08/22/2015 7:46:59 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: Mustangman

Good point...just the term ‘deportation’ probably caused him as much trouble. Interesting that Trump hasn’t used that term (yet), except for criminals.


14 posted on 08/22/2015 8:14:55 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: Mustangman

Ive worked beside many IT workers who worked from 1 to 10 years in Japan on Japanese style “green cards”. Your information on Japan is incomplete. Japan is not as open-borders as we are. But it is far from a closed society.

One key factor is that many immigrants know some English before coming to the US as US English entertainment is worldwide and spreads the language. And on the flip side, there are large foreign language communities in the US. So a Pole, Russian, Hispanic or Brazilian who knows little English can easily find others with whom he can communicate.

I’ve often ordered from fast food workers who didn’t know English and I had to place my order in Spanish. No problem. It’s a free country. :)


28 posted on 08/22/2015 9:25:53 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Mustangman

Ive worked beside many IT workers who worked from 1 to 10 years in Japan on Japanese style “green cards”. Your information on Japan is incomplete. Japan is not as open-borders as we are. But it is far from a closed society.

One key factor is that many immigrants know some English before coming to the US as US English entertainment is worldwide and spreads the language. And on the flip side, there are large foreign language communities in the US. So a Pole, Russian, Hispanic or Brazilian who knows little English can easily find others with whom he can communicate.

I’ve often ordered from fast food workers who didn’t know English and I had to place my order in Spanish. No problem. It’s a free country. :)


30 posted on 08/22/2015 9:42:20 AM PDT by spintreebob
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