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A Calculator Just Whupped UN Supercomputers at Accurately Modeling Climate
Pajamas Media ^ | 08/20/2015 | Charlie Martin

Posted on 08/20/2015 9:06:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 08/20/2015 9:06:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 08/20/2015 9:06:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (qu)
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"A Calculator Just Whupped
UN Supercomputers
at Accurately Modeling Climate..."


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3 posted on 08/20/2015 9:10:22 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: SeekAndFind

A good example of building a model is one that perfectly fits the historical data of the Stock Market. Trust me, give me enough parameters and I can build an equation (* See Note Below) that maps to the DJ Industrial average with in an inch over that past 50 years. Essentially a perfect fit.

The question is: How good is that model when it comes to telling where the market will be a year from now.

The answer is: About as good as your best guess. Maybe not quite that good.

* Note Below: OK, I confess I couldn’t actually build that equation but I could have at one time and that all that counts. ;)


4 posted on 08/20/2015 9:20:33 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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If they pull an algore and extend that y-axis by 10, that line will be almost straight up!


5 posted on 08/20/2015 9:25:34 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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Al Gore has been trying to extend his y axis for eons now.

Didn’t he recently ask to have his 2nd chakra released?


6 posted on 08/20/2015 9:37:16 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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My dog, given a choice of hot, cold, wet, dry and picking the season is more accurate than the Democrat Scientific community.


7 posted on 08/20/2015 9:45:04 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (2016 - Jews for Cruz)
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You’re comparing apples and oranges:

The stock market doesn’t influence the climate.
The climate influences the stock market.

The stock market isn’t primarily based on physics.
Climate is based on physics.

The stock market relies on human nature.
The climate is nature.


8 posted on 08/20/2015 9:57:56 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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Bookmark


9 posted on 08/20/2015 10:03:04 AM PDT by aquila48
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“If they pull an algore and extend that y-axis by 10, that line will be almost straight up!”

Al Gore: “You want to see straight up? Let me align my second chakra an I’ll show you straight up! (That’s right sweety, lower. mmmmm, perfect)”


10 posted on 08/20/2015 10:03:49 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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You’re comparing apples and oranges.
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The stock market is primarily driven by somewhat predictable economic and potentially modellable trends. Human nature plays a role but not nearly as much as earnings and projected earnings,

Climate too is driven by potentially modellable physical laws. Do we really understand those laws and the complex interaction of these laws well enough to accurately model climate? I don’t think so.

Oranges an Tangerines maybe.


11 posted on 08/20/2015 10:09:31 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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Probably the only thing wrong with UN supercomputers where climate modeling is concerned amounts to “garbage in, garbage out.”


12 posted on 08/20/2015 10:37:14 AM PDT by Amendment10
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And, the article lost me right here:

” increases in greenhouse gases like CO2 contribute to that, and that we’ve got good reason to think humans are contributing to that increase.”

How are humans contributing to that increase? Wouldn’t increased CO2 be a benefit, for plant growth (both natural, and man-groomed food crops)? What caused the Earth to cool way back when? What caused it to go into an ice age? What caused it to come OUT of an ice age? And repeat the process?

MAN is NOT the cause, OR solution, to “climate change”.


13 posted on 08/20/2015 12:49:48 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. ItÂ’s been found hard and not tried')
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The stock market is primarily driven by somewhat predictable economic and potentially modellable trends. Human nature plays a role but not nearly as much as earnings and projected earnings,
Earnings is a small difference between two large numbers - revenue and expenses. Consequently projected earnings are particularly volatile.
Climate too is driven by potentially modellable physical laws. Do we really understand those laws and the complex interaction of these laws well enough to accurately model climate? I don’t think so.
I am suspicious of the climate models because they seem wildly complex on the one hand, and seem to depend on a simple, arbitrary assumption of the sensitivity of temp to CO2 on the other. Apparently this model did not start out with a desired conclusion - high sensitivity to CO2 - embedded as a planted axiom before the calculations ever start.

14 posted on 08/20/2015 7:07:05 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

One for Two. Not bad.


15 posted on 08/20/2015 7:16:24 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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Didn’t he recently ask to have his 2nd chakra released?

Released? Why? Was it doing hard time and trying to get paroled for good behaviour?

16 posted on 08/20/2015 7:31:42 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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That was the phrase utter to a massage therapist by ManBearPig (release my 2nd chakra) as he attempted to force her hands to his nether regions.

Of course he was requesting a happy ending.


17 posted on 08/21/2015 5:24:47 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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