Posted on 08/12/2015 7:48:19 AM PDT by conservativejoy
Edited on 08/13/2015 12:27:32 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Republican front-runner Donald Trump came to the home state of the auto industry and attacked Ford Motor Co. for building factories in Mexico. And the Michigan faithful in attendance sided with the bombastic mogul.
"Ford is building a $2.5 billion plant in Mexico," he roared to a packed auditorium in Birch Run, Michigan, and 2,000 voices responded with lusty boos. "I
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Toyotas are garbage now they used to be good not so much anymore.
Trump wants to cut corporate taxes to zero.
Ford already builds cars in Mexico.
Our 2012 Fusion was built there.
All he has to do is lower the corporate tax rate and stop the ridiculous minimum wage crap.
One thing Perot sure got right was the exodus of jobs to Mexico.
That Sucking sound left Detroit a ghost town
That Sucking Sound started under “BJ” Bill Jefferson Clinton
Hillary has to defend that.
The traditional argument against that was that the free market would win out. Im not sure that is the case vs. a massive quasi-slave-labor society like China, any more than it was true in the American South. There, it took government action and eventually a war to undo the gubment support of the slave system. So, in this case, I wouldnt be opposed to tariffs on Chinese originated goods
One reason you have agitation for $15/hr minimums for burger-flippers and WalMart workers is because the good-paying manufacturing jobs those folks (unskilled laborers) would have taken back in the day have mostly been sent offshore.
Sanders and HRC have no clue about business and dealmaking. Trump does. So yeah it’s way different when Trump talks about “not allowing”. You have to think logically not kneejerk react to soundbites. If I see a house I want to buy and say “nobody else is going to buy that I am” I am not implying I am forcing anyone to sell it to me. It means I’m going to make the best deal and make it happen. That is how Trump thinks.
But you already cannot stand him and have your mind made up about him so anything he says isn’t going to convince you. That’s fine he isn’t your guy.
So tell me the candidate with auto manufacturing experience. Should they all cede any discussion of the issue?
With all due respect we have NO IDEA whatTrump the president would do
He may well turn into some version of Obama. We know from a thread this morning Trump doesn’t hold the highest regard for personal property rights. This kind of stuff draws cheers and indeed probably more support
I want to win. I don’t know that I want to win with an unknown who might think he is bigger than the constitution
They should keep their mouth shut about their socialist ideals.
(Funny thing about all you sleeper trolls supporting Trump)
“Not a Donald Trump supporter. However, he does these “crazy” things because he is running as a populist, not a conservative. In marketing, you find a hungry crowd and feed it. Trump is adept at identifying hungry crowds and tossing red meat. “
Very good. But it goes even farther....MI is a voter rich, industrial state. Not so relevant for the nomination at this point, but very relevant for the general. So while the other candidates are trying to parse together 3 votes at a pie baking contest in Des Moines, DT is working and placing markers in states he wants/needs to win in the general.
We haven’t seen a similar strategy since about 1980. Let’s see whether DT starts going to states like PA.
He said he would convince Ford, not forbid. He’s not denying their right to build in Mexico.
Trump is getting closer to being on my do not vote list. See tagline.
No, I don’t care who says it. None of them should be interfering with where Ford builds plants.
If Trump had said “I will make the incentives so good to build plants here, Ford would not want to leave”, that would make for a serious policy discussion. But that isn’t what he did, he just said he wouldn’t allow Ford to leave.
You can’t sit around and say it’s okay for one candidate to say that and not another - especially, yet again, short of the specifics of how he would “not allow” Ford to build their plant in Mexico.
I wonder if Trump even realizes the constraints the President has in these matters. He acts like he can stroll into office and start ordering US companies where they can and can’t build as if he were some sort of God king.
Well like Rush said if you think Trump is a fraud or have your doubts he isn’t your guy. Every Republican president we had after Reagan reneged on some big stuff. So with any candidate we don’t know for sure if they will (or even can) do what they say. If your level of belief with Trump is irreparably low then so be it. Mine isn’t
I seriously doubt he means he is going to make Ford build a plant in the US. I think he means he will create the conditions that Ford would want to build a plant in the US.
Deporting illegals is a good start. Lowering corp, and small business taxes is another. Stop inflating minimum wage. Better still do away with the minimum wage!
We already know this. THEY know this. Its the SAME OLD SAME OLD every year!
We are being ruled by a fascist outfit now and we are still functioning. Not so good but functioning.
Imagine what a pro-american pro-bussiness team, packed with solid conservatives, could do for our once great country. Still actually the greatest but it has been misused and abused.
Yet, somehow we all know, even before even one candidate announced who is going to be President? HOw do we all know that?
Chinese Textile Mills Are Now Hiring in Places Where Cotton Was King
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/03/business/chinese-textile-mills-are-now-hiring-in-places-where-cotton-was-king.html?_r=0
...Textile production in China is becoming increasingly unprofitable after years of rising wages, higher energy bills and mounting logistical costs, as well as new government quotas on the import of cotton.
At the same time, manufacturing costs in the United States are becoming more competitive. In Lancaster County, where Indian Land is located, Keer has found residents desperate for work, even at depressed wages, as well as access to cheap and abundant land and energy and heavily subsidized cotton....
But surging labor and energy costs in China are eroding its competitiveness in manufacturing. According to the Boston Consulting Group, manufacturing wages adjusted for productivity have almost tripled in China over the last decade, to an estimated $12.47 an hour last year from $4.35 an hour in 2004.
In the United States, manufacturing wages adjusted for productivity have risen less than 30 percent since 2004, to $22.32 an hour, according to the consulting firm. And the higher wages for American workers are offset by lower natural gas prices, as well as inexpensive cotton and local tax breaks and subsidies.
Today, for every $1 required to manufacture in the United States, Boston Consulting estimates that it costs 96 cents to manufacture in China. Yarn production costs in China are now 30 percent higher than in the United States, according to the International Textile Manufacturers Federation....
His words: “”I would say, the deal is not going to be approved, I wont allow it.”
Direct Trump quote from that speech in MI “you got to make deals we can’t always sign executive orders”.
Quit overreacting to a news article about one line in a speech and look for context.
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