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The Lives They Lived: Fred C. Trump, b. 1905; The Fred
http://www.nytimes.com ^ | 1/ 2/2000 | Phillip Weiss

Posted on 07/31/2015 5:58:01 PM PDT by conservativejoy

Donald Trump remembers exactly when he realized his father was beginning to fade. About six years ago, they were driving down Fifth Avenue when he gave his father big news: he had just bought the land beneath the Empire State Building. ''That's a tall building, isn't it?'' Fred C. Trump replied. ''How many apartments are in that building?'' At first, Donald thought he was kidding. But his father, 87, was developing Alzheimer's.

Fred Trump died last June in Queens, at 93. Donald had visited him in the hospital that night and got the call later when he was by himself, high up in Trump Tower. He cried. It was the saddest day of his life, he says.

The son, now considering a run for the presidency, likes to present himself as a self-made man. But how much of him did his father make? Long before young Trump was putting up glass-and-bronze curtain walls on Fifth Avenue and selling apartments for $38 million, his father was putting bird cages in lobbies to dress up Queens apartment houses -- and releasing balloons on Coney Island at the height of summer with coupons inside for $50 off on a $4,990 Trump home.

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To: hoosiermama

Coy of draft registration. (Birth mark on both heels)
Plus records of deferment. And 4F classifications

Http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/celebrity/deferments-helped-trump-dodge-vietnam


101 posted on 08/03/2015 5:39:59 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obam65a: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now?)
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To: Amntn

You might enjoy this research. Link at 3 and 8 are very good history of his family. Definitely not blue bloods. Good German work ethic


102 posted on 08/05/2015 1:50:11 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obam65a: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now?Shutting down and defunding is not enough. People)
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To: MinuteGal; DoughtyOne; Black Agnes

Here is Trump History Thread. As I’ve advised others start with links at 3 and 8 before reading other post. Have purposely left out many of the tabloid type articles.

HT to black agnes for her continued contributions!

Feel free to add or share material here.


103 posted on 08/05/2015 3:08:52 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obam65a: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now?Shutting down and defunding is not enough. People)
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To: CAluvdubya

See suggestions above
Enjoy


104 posted on 08/05/2015 4:49:51 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obam65a: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now?Shutting down and defunding is not enough. People)
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To: hoosiermama

Thank you for the links. I enjoyed reading them.


105 posted on 08/05/2015 6:01:06 PM PDT by Amntn
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To: Amntn

You are more than welcome. Haven’t had time to look lately if you cone across any feel free to post. Ping me so I can read it too

I’ve been looking for materials on military school but nothing to support the man who said “he could never have survived it”


106 posted on 08/05/2015 6:28:01 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obam65a: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now?Shutting down and defunding is not enough. People)
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To: Despot of the Delta

See suggested first reading above


107 posted on 08/05/2015 9:53:14 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obam65a: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now?Shutting down and defunding is not enough. People)
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To: Guenevere

Thought you might enjoy. Particularly link at 3 & 8

Lots of tabloid out there. Trying to get articles less flamboyant so we have insight into the Real person


108 posted on 08/08/2015 5:56:08 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obam65a: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now?Shutting down and defunding is not enough. People)
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To: hoosiermama

Thanks so much!
...I .had already read it and thoroughly enjoyed all the information, background.
Really humanizes him!


109 posted on 08/08/2015 7:06:36 AM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do........Psalms 11:3..An Appeal to Heaven)
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To: Guenevere

I wish more would
Be released now !


110 posted on 08/08/2015 7:09:50 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obam65a: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now?Shutting down and defunding is not enough. People)
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To: Crystal Palace East

First you must understand where he is from. Post 3 8
He doesn’t talk about his ancestors and the American Dream. Mother from Scotland. Grandparent with German work ethic at a time it was necessary to change name and lie about nationality

Putting this in perspectives. Rubin Cruz,etc children should rise to multi billionaire level. The American Dream on Steroids.

I have purposly avoided tabloid. These are plenty. But have tried to vet into the REAL Donald Trump.
One thing that has tweeted curiosity was comment made by Hollywood PAC founder re Military school. “Three session. I COUKD NEVER HAVE SURVIVED IT. Might be a good interview


111 posted on 08/08/2015 12:37:23 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obam65a: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now?Shutting down and defunding is not enough. People)
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To: Crystal Palace East

First you must understand where he is from. Post 3 8
He doesn’t talk about his ancestors and the American Dream. Mother from Scotland. Grandparent with German work ethic at a time it was necessary to change name and lie about nationality

Putting this in perspectives. Rubin Cruz,etc children should rise to multi billionaire level. The American Dream on Steroids.

I have purposly avoided tabloid. These are plenty. But have tried to vet into the REAL Donald Trump.
One thing that has tweeted curiosity was comment made by Hollywood PAC founder re Military school. “Three session. I COUKD NEVER HAVE SURVIVED IT. Might be a good interview


112 posted on 08/08/2015 12:37:45 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obam65a: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now?Shutting down and defunding is not enough. People)
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To: b9

There is a picture of he Trumps.with the Palins and Greta and her husband at Billy Graham’s last sermon
Not sure if I put it here
Start at link on 3 then 8 they are the best on family history. Rest AA tried to keep non tabloid but informative to the REAL Donald Trump

Enjoy


113 posted on 08/09/2015 11:33:15 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obam65a: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now?Shutting down and defunding is not enough. People)
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To: hoosiermama

Thanks a bunch!


114 posted on 08/09/2015 11:49:26 PM PDT by b9
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To: DannyTN

Have been suggesting read posts 3&8 first. Trying to stay away from tabloid. But as a celebrity there is alot out there

Feel free to add or take anything you have found including you list.
Am to the point don’t care about party. Want an American. Country over Party


115 posted on 08/10/2015 7:28:56 PM PDT by hoosiermama (psalm 150;3 Praise him with the sound of the TRUMPet)
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To: exit82

Thought you might enjoy and.be able to add to this thread
3 & 8 have the best foundedso far on T family history. Trying to stay away from tabloid fluff


116 posted on 08/11/2015 8:40:42 PM PDT by hoosiermama (psalm 150;3 Praise him with the sound of the TRUMPet)
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To: hoosiermama

hoosiermama, thanks for pinging me to this thread.

I found the article fascinating, as I spent 20 years designing, constructing and managing large office buildings for a very large financial corporation.

I know what it takes to be a success in Trump’s field, although he far eclipses me in his accomplishments.

The basic elements are the same.

What I liked about Fred Trump was his insistence that his contractors get their bills in to him by the 20th of the month, so they can be paid by the 30th, then they could pay their subs or get a discount on materials from their suppliers early in the following month.

We had a 30 day pay policy. It was in our contracts. To get very large checks cut in this corporation was a bureaucratic nightmare, but I always paid my contractors on time—never late.

On change orders, sometimes they would miscalculate and short themselves. I would draw a line through their number, correct the calculations and increase the amount to the correct one.

They were amazed. They said no one ever did that. I said we don’t cheat you here at _________________. I am honest with you, you be honest with me.If I cheat you on the change order and you find out, you will cheat me on something else. Let’s not play that game.

I was able to get all kinds of projects done on time and under budget. My contractors always wanted to work my jobs, because my jobs were safe, and they were treated fairly.

In this business, your word becomes your reputation.

That is why Donald insists on being treated “fairly”. It means something in his world.

Fred Trump gave a lot to Donald—most importantly his work ethic and reputation for good work.

And Donald has built an empire on that—an amazing accomplishment.

And you know what?

I don’t tire of hearing him say “amazing” fantastic” unbelievable” wonderful”—because I haven’t heard a President speak like that in almost 30 years.

Thanks again—fascinating article and insight into Fred and Donald Trump.


117 posted on 08/12/2015 7:57:04 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: exit82

Thanks for your insightful addition. If you find any other positive material please add it.

I agree about the positive hype. We have been so knocked down. It will take a lot of positive imagery to get we the people to believe in themselves again


118 posted on 08/12/2015 8:22:01 AM PDT by hoosiermama (psalm 150;3 Praise him with the sound of the TRUMPet)
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To: Windflier; Jim Robinson

Tell everyone to start with post 3 & 8. Enjoy!


119 posted on 08/12/2015 9:38:35 PM PDT by hoosiermama (psalm 150;3 Praise him with the sound of the TRUMPet!)
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To: Sontagged

It was one of the stories on this thread that gave me the impression that Trump had no use for society hoppers, blue bloods or others who considered themselves elitist (that would include the Bush. They didn’t accept his new money he responded in kind.
Have tried to not post the tabloids but did read many determining what should be included. It may have been in one of those articles


120 posted on 08/13/2015 8:01:49 PM PDT by hoosiermama (psalm 150;3 Praise him with the sound of the TRUMPet!)
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