[bgill]

From your link on Gov. Abbott supporting the massacre: Police say several tactical officers and Department of Public Safety troopers had been near the Twin Peaks restaurant in Waco monitoring activity before the shootout started. “We were well seen,” Swanton said.

That's just it. They were well seen. So why would anyone start something right smack dab in the middle of well seen SWAT aiming at them? No way. It was planned that an under cover cop start something.

[don-o]

They were sitting in their cars. At least the Waco PD was according to the Chief. According to him, his men got out of their vehicles and ultimately fired 12 rounds from rifles after trouble began.

Among things we do not know are:

Where were Abbot’s men and what did THEY do?

Where were Obama’s men and what did THEY do?

[Salamander]

I don’t personally know any bikers that would even dare to belch loudly in the midst of a heavy police presence, let alone ‘throw down’.

A funny thing...out of *all* of those ‘awful, subhuman criminals’, there was not even one single drug charge?

None?

Hmmmmmm...