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To: parksstp

bumping your post

Look at the posting history of many (and I mean MANY) of the people that weren’t just dissing Cruz on this vote but calling him a traitor, globalist, Obama’s bud, etc...

You’ll find virtually all of them in a birth/NBC thread at some point. Isn’t that interesting? What’s more interesting many of them were spewing in verbatim the exact same talking points as if they were pulling from the same anti-birther website.

And with the exception of a few, they don’t name whom they really support which is becoming clearer its Trump, because they’re afraid of a purge like what happened to the Rudy G people because face it, Trump isn’t a conservative. Trump is the new Ron Paul.

This is why I viewed with skepticism awhile back that had articles published saying Cruz was winning over the Ron Paulbots from 08/12. Paulbots are flat out nutcases and their behavior mimics that of the liberals to a level of embarrassment. I’m now convinced these people think Trump is the new RuPaul because of some miscellaneous statements Trump has made in the past. They think he is Tom Tancredo on immigration and Pat Buchanan on foreign policy and pro-isolation. They forget Trump has made some pretty hideous statements about the Tea Party and conservatives in general (when he’s not claiming to have invented the Tea Party). Trump will have more leftists running his campaign than Jebbers and that’s saying a lot. He’s donated to and supported Hillary and Schumer’s NY Senate campaigns (over Rick Lazio I might add).

Yet because of this one issue, Trump is now a hero?

Well I’ve got one last question for the Cruz-bashers, just one. Hopefully this question will weed out the truly concerned from the truly nuts:

Let’s say we way 19 months and Obama leaves office and Cruz gets elected President with the same Republican majorities in office. TPA comes back for a vote, and Cruz has all the provisions of TPP fully released so that it is fully available for not just 60 days, but at any time for the anyone in the public to view it.

Does TPA pass this time and get supported since this would address the 2 biggest issues, secrecy and no tyrannical marxist in office? From what I’ve heard on talk radio they would support it at that point. Or would people out here still oppose it?


111 posted on 06/14/2015 8:12:39 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: CatherineofAragon; P-Marlowe; onyx

See post #104

I was an absolutely passionate defender of Cruz’s natural born status. I was a donor to his campaign, a defender of his campaign, and one who was hopeful of the principled conservatism it promised. These things are easily checked on all the natural born threads and the Ted Cruz threads.

And, to be fair, I’ve always ended up being a bit of a pragmatist along about the last month of a presidential campaign. IOW, I tend to vote rather than not vote.

I was prepared to vote for Virgil Goode the last election until: (1) Benghazi, and (2) The Constitution Party held a rally in Ohio. Benghazi so enraged me, I couldn’t imagine Romney being worse on that than Obama. The CP’s Ohio rally so disappointed me that all they’d done was have a carry-in picnic that I realized they weren’t remotely serious about a real campaign.

How this relates to Ted Cruz is that these are negatives now in his column. He also has positives on my tally sheet. I’ll look at all the candidates and evaluate them the same way, and when the primary finally gets to Ohio, I’ll vote for the candidate with the most positives and the least negatives.

That is, unless some third party actually launches a real campaign with a real candidate.

FWIW, I think Cruz has so injured himself with H1B and TPA that he’ll not still be around when the primary finally comes to Ohio. JMHO.


116 posted on 06/14/2015 8:23:11 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: CatherineofAragon

I live in a rural area far from New York and haven’t been interested in celebrity issues, so I don’t know much about Donald Trump. But here’s the info in a list that’s easy to read.

Donald Trump on the Issues
http://www.ontheissues.org/donald_trump.htm

But as with most politicians, it’s mainly based on what he said. At the same time, it’s unlikely that he would voice American interests over foreign interests without being dedicated to that line of intent. It’s obvious that foreign interests don’t trust him (as seen here in discussions).

On other issues, are we seeing a slow motion waffle or some changes of mind over a long period of time? I don’t know. But it is also obvious that some older woman bosses don’t like him. To them, he’s the “arrogant male.”

;-)

I lean somewhat toward Governor Walker because of his record of cutting spending, but I don’t trust any politicians much. They’re all bought and paid for by influential weirdos. I most distrust the politicians who lie the most (e.g., a politician with a family full of government employees).


180 posted on 06/14/2015 3:02:15 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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