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To: ConservativeMind

You are wrong. The TPA fast track that Cruz voted for gives Obama authority to finish negotiating the TPP in secrecy (FACT)

The TPA also only requires a simple majority vote in the House and Senate. The TPA that Cruz voted for gives away the Senate’s right to a 60-vote cloture. (FACT)

The TPA that Cruz voted for also says that no member of congress can offer any Amendments to change the TPP that Obama negotiates (FACT)

Saying it’s not law yet because the House has not approved it has nothing to do with the fact that Cruz voted for it showing exactly how treacherous he is.

And skirting law by calling it an Agreement between nations rather than a Treaty is also low class. The secret TPP which Cruz has read and won’t tell us about is reportedly being kept secret because it covers FAR MORE than trade. It also creates international boards of review and opens borders for uncontrolled travel and immigration. That is far more than an Agreement.

If there was nothing wrong with it Obama and his buddy Ted Cruz would not be hiding things from us.

Again, I don’t care what Cruz says. I judge him by his actions, especially when it really counts.

Cruz cannot be trusted so it is time we all move on and find someone who is not a fraud.

I guess it was at least nice of Cruz to show up though. He has one of the lowest vote attendance rates in the Senate. He reminds me so much of Senator Present now in the Oval Office.


275 posted on 06/07/2015 7:02:46 PM PDT by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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To: CCGuy

When the TPA passes, it does not pass, in any way, anything with the TPP that 0bama is doing, has done, or will do. Whatever 0bama does with the TPP will have to come to the House and Senate for a vote before any of it is effective.


277 posted on 06/07/2015 7:17:31 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: CCGuy

Cruz reminds you of Hussein?

Hyberbole Much?


278 posted on 06/07/2015 7:20:18 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: CCGuy; bobby.223

Both of you need to read this:

http://dailycaller.com/2015/05/23/this-is-the-difference-between-tpp-and-tpa-hint-they-are-not-the-same-thing/


279 posted on 06/07/2015 7:21:05 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: CCGuy; ncalburt; Mariner; Erik Latranyi; fatnotlazy; Lil Flower; odawg; boycott; Duc Tape; ...

I think what might be happening in a few cases, besides outright spin on just what these ‘trade’ things really are, what they really include, (Wait until The TISA thing hits FR!!!), is that folks are reluctant to move away from Ted Cruz. They have a lot of feelings invested. I understand that. I really liked the guy......but he had me fooled bad. I admit it. So what? Not the first time I have been faked out of my old jock, and it probably won’t be the last. How people can support this America destroying, (how do I know it is America destroying?.....because Obama is for it! SIMPLE huh?), ‘trade’ thing boggles the mind. How folks can side with and support ANYTHING the most evil person to ever hold the office of President of the United States wants for us is beyond me. So are own folks are defending this nightmare for America TPP that Barry is pushing for HARD? I do not understand that for one minute. So called Conservatives siding with for what the muslim Barry wants to help topple our Country?.....never thought I’d see it.


280 posted on 06/07/2015 7:31:15 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: CCGuy
I judge him by his actions, especially when it really counts.

Then you are a poor judge, and maybe disingenuous.

Cruz is the best conservative of the bunch. Who are you trying to promote?

281 posted on 06/07/2015 7:33:04 PM PDT by Moorings
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