Posted on 05/21/2015 9:16:27 AM PDT by PROCON
Meat — despite popular movements to decrease the amount humans consume — is still a central part of diets around the world. People who live in industrial countries (like the United States) eat roughly 210 pounds of it each year.
And consumption in the developing world, where people eat closer to 66 pounds each year, is climbing fast. Growth is such that by 2030 the average human is expected to consume just under 100 pounds per year, 10 percent more than today.
Our collective affinity for meat likely began out of circumstance — humans that lived inland from the coast had little choice but to hunt in order to live — and has persisted for evolutionary reasons. Meat carries nutrients like zinc and protein, promotes growth, and provides energy. It also doesn't hurt that the price of meat has fallen dramatically.
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If it is ‘human meat’ then the starter cells have to have been part of a human at some point in the past, even if a distant past. The post to you was meant to deceive ...
It also doesn’t hurt that the price of meat has fallen dramatically.”
Huh??????
Yeah, don't believe your lying eyes **Sheesh**
Yeah, I think someone needs to move to the real world. In 1972 I could buy all the choice T-bone steak I wanted for $.79 a pound, everyday price at an IGA market a mile from my home. A person earning the minimum wage of $1.60 an hour could buy two pounds with one hour’s gross pay. I was earning about $3.50 an hour so I could buy four pounds of T-bone with baking potatoes for one hour’s pay. Try doing that with $7.35 now, you need an hour and a half to buy ONE pound. I don’t know what people get out of peddling this nonsense. In terms of hours worked per pound T-bone is three times as expensive as it was forty three years ago. In fact the state of South Carolina recently lowered the sales tax on groceries or the sales tax would be more than the cost of the steak was in 1972. If you eat in a restaurant now you pay the full sales tax and you generally pay more in sales tax than the meal including sales tax cost back then. Anyone who thinks the price of meat has fallen dramatically must be living on a different planet.
“Are veggietarians B-12 deficient?”
They have to supplement B12. If they don’t they are in big trouble after about 3 years, and have to be injected with it. They lose the enzymes necessary to metabolise it.
“Never knew that meat is a source of Vitamin B-12. Must research this further.”
B-12 is the result of cobalt being fixed in nature by certain bacteria. That is the only way B-12 is made in nature. B-12 enters the animal food chain via ruminant or other animals with cobalt-fixing bacteria as part of their digestion or diet. All other animals must consume one of THOSE animals (or their products such as milk or eggs) to obtain their B-12 from nature.
It’s a truly amazing synergy when you think about it, namely, to live, animals MUST have a VERY tiny amount of a certain organic form of elemental cobalt (B-12), and they are ultimately dependent upon certain bacteria to make it for them.
BTW, humans can absorb B-12 only if their gastric parietal cells are capable of making intrinsic factor and they have also sufficient stomach acid. Absent either of those, people can’t absorb B-12 and will die. Pernicious anemia is an autoimmune disease in which the gastric parietal cells are attacked and killed and/or an allergy to intrinsic factor itself develops. In either case, someone with pernicious anemia (like myself) will die without periodic B-12 injections. (If you have to have a fatal illness, pernicious anemia is probably the best one to have.)
Here’s a Q&D source of info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12
“Are veggietarians B-12 deficient?”
Vegans will die without artificial supplementation, but an adult liver of a person who eats meat will hold a 7-10 year supply; stupid vegans will think all is fine until they start to die from the absence of B-12, but of course they won’t know why they’re dying, you know, because they eat such a “healthy” diet and all. BTW, it should be considered child abuse to feed a young child a vegan diet because they don’t have a built-up liver supply of B-12 like a meat-eating adult.
Cahokia... inland floodplain, major civilization with trading networks that extended to the Great Lakes, the Gulf Of Mexico, the Atlantic and the Rocky Mountains.
Yes, a rare exception to the rule, and they didn’t last very long. Within a few centuries, their remnants were back to hunting and gathering with a little subsistence farming.
There are also lots of flood plains and deltas around the Nile river in Egypt and the Tigris and Euphrates in Mesopotamia, the Ohio river valley and the Amazon that are nowhere near the coast.
Fascinating! Hope that B-12 is working for you. I’ve heard of pernicious anemia but never knew the cause.
So...humans are designed to be meat eaters (how un-PC of them). I read once of a fanatical vegan putting the pet dog on a vegan diet. You can guess the tragic outcome, slow death from malnutrition.
Fiber from fruits & vegetables is good for you, but I have been Atkins-oriented for many years, minimizing breads, pasta, potatoes, rice, & sugar.
I call it the Al Sharpton diet: “White is not right!!”.
;^)
NO and OH, HELL NO.
Bwahahaha!
Yes, there are flood plains inland, I never said there weren't, but they tend to be narrower and offer less arable land, because rivers converge closer to the sea (and form wide deltas when they dump into the sea), and thus, a wider river/delta = wider flood plain = more arable land.
The major deltas in Egypt and Mesopotamia ARE near the coast, just look at the satellite images (see how the largest green areas, the arable land, is near the coast and tapers inland):
Egypt:
Mesopotamia:
Hi Buddy! Have a great Memorial Day weekend.
I meant to say that I hope that the B-12 supplements are working for you; I just looked up pernicious anemia & learned that it is an autoimmune disease, which is indeed pernicious since the body’s defenses are turned against it.
My first wife died at 49 from complications of multiple sclerosis in which the treatments themselves weakened what was left of her immune system. Bacterial infection eventually led to a cerebral hemorrhage.
I am therefore sympathetic to autoimmune sufferers. Best of luck.
Same to you my friend. Hope all is well.
That word you use. I do not think it means what you think it means.
I don’t get it - I buy my meat at the supermarket. It comes from styrofoam. No animals involved.
When the Sikhs abandoned pacifism for armed resistance to Muslim persecution, their leaders ordered them to begin eating meat so they'd become stronger.
Really, really important in a world where disputes were settled by hand to hand combat. Even more than on today's battlefield.
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