[PeaRidge]

You have admitted and established the fact that some of the original assertions of the early posters on this thread about the Ordinances of Secession were factually wrong.

In addition to the four statements on secession from which many of you draw on to underpin your assertions, you can also retrieve hundreds, or thousands of resolutions, statements, pamphlets, editorials, speeches, letters, and gossip to support your favorite position.

But, the Official Ordinances are not used to lend credibility to that end.

[driftless2]

Oh gee, some of the ordinances didn't specifically mention slavery. All the ones I read did. And I guess I was wrong about Stephens saying "slavery was the cornerstone of the Confederacy" as well. Or was I? Did he really say that? Why, yes he did. So what's your comment about the vice-president of the Confederacy saying that about slavery sir?

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

You have admitted and established the fact that some of the original assertions of the early posters on this thread about the Ordinances of Secession were factually wrong.

People tend to confuse the ordinances, which shed little light, with the declarations issued by the same people at the same time, which shed a great deal of light, as do the debates of the secession conventions.

Now, are you going to explain why your position that "the official statements of the secession conventions were those approved by the people" applies to the ordinances and not the declarations, or will you continue to obfuscate?