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To: WhiskeyX

Stauffenberg was shot btw. On the evening of the July 20th Bomb Plot.

I guess we will have to disagree. I don’t doubt that Jodl was a high ranking staff officer who participated in strategy meetings and transmitted orders. I don’t claim he was innocent. I do not think he was a ruthless war criminal like Himmler, Heydrich, or Eichmann.

Yes Jodl could have joined the July 20th Bomb Plot. He would have suffered the same fate as the rest. Either way he choices weren’t good. I still think a punishment similar to what Doenitz and Raeder received would have been more appropriate.


20 posted on 05/11/2015 11:07:42 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

“Stauffenberg was shot btw. On the evening of the July 20th Bomb Plot.”

The man who was executed by hanging and slow strangulation with piano wire on a meathook multiple times as Hitler’s executioners made movies was Berthold Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg, and not his younger brother, Colonel Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg.

“I guess we will have to disagree. I don’t doubt that Jodl was a high ranking staff officer who participated in strategy meetings and transmitted orders. I don’t claim he was innocent. I do not think he was a ruthless war criminal like Himmler, Heydrich, or Eichmann.”

All of which goes back to the still unanswered question of just how many people have to die as a consequence of Jodl’s orders and/or his participation in the conspiracy to wage an unlawful war while committing war crimes under the Laws of War before he should be judged guilty of a capital offense? Is it 1 million deaths, 1,000 deaths, 100 deaths, 10 deaths, or perhaps only 1 death?

“Yes Jodl could have joined the July 20th Bomb Plot. He would have suffered the same fate as the rest. Either way he choices weren’t good. I still think a punishment similar to what Doenitz and Raeder received would have been more appropriate.”

General Friedrich Paulus had the moral courage to rescind the Reichenau Order or Severity Order and the Commissar Order in the Sixth Army at his own personal risk, but Jodl forfeited his life by making himself complicit with the war crimes committed by Keitel and Hitler. If Jodl was in a dilemma, it was a dilemma of his own making which he lacked the moral courage and/or was too cowardly to face until he was forcibly compelled to stand as a defendant accused of war crimes before a military tribunal.


22 posted on 05/11/2015 6:28:48 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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