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To: MHGinTN

My interpretation is this: “the Rapture” is not a THING .. so of course it is not mentioned in the Bible.

“The Rapture” is used to label AN EVENT .. the catching away of the Believers to be with Christ. This is an event that takes place after WWIII and the Final Harvest, but prior to Armageddon.

The catching away was described as being a “rapturous event” and thus “the Rapture” as a statement was born.

And .. the catching away of the believers .. means all believers in Christ - be they Evangelicals, Baptists, Methodists, Catholics, Presbyterians, etc., etc., etc. The key is “in Christ”. No denomination has ownership of “in Christ”.


350 posted on 05/15/2015 6:22:13 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("The hour has arrived to gather the Harvest")
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To: The Final Harvest
So let me see if I get this your way. You have this bride who is betrothed to you. You tell her that you two are going to get married, then you're going to beat the daylights out of her and go to dinner. Yeah, that makes lots of sense. And we believers are to comfort one another with that notion, right?/sarc

The word found several places in the New Testament which is translated into English, in the Latin is rooted in the verb 'rapio', which int he Greek is rooted in harpazo. Using a good text, check what and where rapio is found int he New Testament. One in particular is found in 1 Thess 4:13 - 18. Study to show thy self approved, a workman worthy of your hire, nit just a pundit.

The Rapture of The Body of Christ is coming very very soon. will you be ready? Or will you argue with God that He should have snatched you away despite your disbelieving Him.

351 posted on 05/15/2015 8:37:56 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: The Final Harvest
We are in 100% agreement that no denomination has control over The Catching away. No Catholic or Mormon or Baptist ... well, you get the gist, you even stated it more pointedly than I have fumbled it.

because of prophecies in the OT and the New Testament, I am convinced the Rapture is imminent, even at the door. The three passages usually used to teach on the Tribulation period are Matthew 24, mark 13, and Luke 21. Luke wrote to Gentiles. It is interesting that Luke's account has none of the Great Tribulation in it, so I can see how some put the snatching away, the calling out of the Bride, the Removal of The Body of Christ hallmarked by God's Holy Spirit indwelling believers, they put it in the Tribulation but before the wrath of God is rained down upon the Earth. But this is a narrow view, based perhaps in the notion that The Church in America, the Laodicean church image of neither hot nor cold, that such an image is world-wide. It is not. The growth of The Church is rocketing in some places, while fear of the Lord is waning in America.

Though no one knows the moment/minute.hour of the calling away, the signs are well noted for the Tribulation. Faniel chapter nine and following delineate the signs to mark the seventieth week. we know that there has been a pause between Daniel's sixty-ninth week and the start of the seventieth week, and it has lasted almost 2000 years thus far. Prophecy in the Bible tells us the seventieth week starts with the signing of a seven year pact by Israel for 'peace and safety'. what causes Isarel to do this is the 64,000 dollar question. BUT, that event has got to be very close, based on prophecies being fulfilled as we write! So, the restrainer is taken out before the man of sin strides upon the scene.

There is also a vision from Elijah to a German Rabbi named Judah ben Samuel which appears to indicate the contract signing year is 2017.

You might note that Jesus told His disciples that when He goes He will send a comforter to them, the Holy Spirit. For some reason this indwelling was not going to happen while Jesus was physically with humanity on Earth. Before He returns to Earth, this indwelling presence of The Holy SPirit will be taken away, hence the Church, The Body of Christ will be taken way before Christ returns to set foot on the Earth.

If we are Raptured during the Tribulation, it's like saying to your new bride that you will take her for a snack after you watch her get mugged. Our Salvation is by His Grace, alone. Not by our faithfulness to the Gift nor by our works we might do. His Spirit seals the professor in Christ unto the day of redemption. The Bride is about to be redeemed, and that redemption is based SOLELY on the Power and Promise of God. Jesus will lose not one who confesses Him, and God's hand is cupped over the hand of Jesus, so there is nothing that can snatch the Saved from the promised salvation in The Grace of God in Christ. Salvation is based on God's Promise to those who faithe (the verb form) in Christ.

The catching away of the Bride from the coming Tribulation precludes The Church, the true Church, being here during WWIII, because the weaponry used in that war will be so insidious and to threaten those seal in Christ if that were allowed. God will Rapture His Church for His Son's sake ... it is His blood which has purchased us.

353 posted on 05/15/2015 8:58:49 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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