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To: MHGinTN
Who is the instead of ‘Jesus’, more commonly called the anti-Christ? Christians are not going anywhere. Christ is coming here to reclaim earth. The tribulation is not a blood letting. Paul describes the first tribulation in Ephesians 6. There will not be a raptor by Our Lord and Saviour. The impostor will be offering it if one can be deceived.

Christ said Mark 13:20 AND except that the LORD had shortened those days, no flesh should be ‘saved’: (my apostrophe around that word saved, to point the obvious the purpose of this flesh journey.)

Mark 13:20 but for the elect’s sake, whom He hath chosen, He hath shortened the days.

21. AND then if any man shall sat to you, ‘Lo, here is Christ;’ OR, ‘Lo, He is there; believe him not:

22. For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

23. But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.

24. (Christ quotes Isaiah 13:10) But in those days, AFTER that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,

25. And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.

26. AND then shall they see the Son of man coming in the cloud with great power and glory.

No secret leaving ever mentioned by Christ, and it takes rejecting 99.9% of the rest of the Word to dream up a raptor fly away tale.

185 posted on 05/08/2015 11:05:41 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts

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They do not accept the word of God!

If God won’t give them a secret rapture, they’ll turn to Satan for the one he’s been pushing through the Dispys.
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187 posted on 05/08/2015 11:25:01 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Just mythoughts
In John 14 Jesus tells His disciples that He is going away to prepare a place for them in 'My Father's House'. And He adds, if I go then I will come and bring you to where I am. This bringing is not a judgment process, it is a deliverance. Amrk 13 addresses the Second Coming UPON the Earth. Jesus need not touch down on Earth tobring, as we see with Him addressing Saul directly on the road to Damascus, seen by Saul.

At the second touchdown on Earth, at the end of the Great Tribulation (the second half of the seventieth week of Daniel) Jesus is coming with Judgment upon the earth and all that dwell therein ... except a remnanet, the elect, whom the Holy Spirit is protecting from the anti-Christ. Those being protected, the elect, are in bodies mortal. They live through the awful things that happen during the Tribulation. These are not The Church.

Just as in the days of Noah ... God delivers from what is to come. In the days of Noah, He delivered by two means: Enoch was taken away into Heaven before the rains and Noah's eight were closed up in the ark and delivered alive to ride out the flood. In the analogy, Noah's family would be 'the elect', and Enoch would be the taken out to avoid the deception coming. The believers in the Church Age are defined as 'the (singular)body of Christ'. Jesus wasn't into self flagellation, that's a Muzzie thing. And BTW, the mooselimb Mahdi takes the Temple Mount as his throne and his deceiver jesus declares the Mahdi to be the lord of lords, which will deceive many!

As no one can predict the day or hour of the Rapture, anyone wanting to read the Bible can predict the Second coming. And Jesus explained this exact notion the Wednesday before the crucifixion, in the Olivet discourse. The Philadelphia Church is told they will be kept from what is coming: Rev 3:10 & 11 (‘Because thou didst keep the word of my endurance, I also will keep thee from the hour of the trial that is about to come upon all the world, to try those dwelling upon the earth. Lo, I come quickly, be holding fast that which thou hast, that no one may receive thy crown.)

188 posted on 05/08/2015 11:45:39 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Just mythoughts; mdmathis6; NorthstarMom; boatbums; Alamo-Girl; Elsie; BipolarBob; smvoice; ...
If your heart is open to doing a study, here is a video from Chuck Missler who is a far more knowledgable and apt teacher than I. His teaching is accurate and uses excellent cross referencing of the scriptures, without pulling verses out of context. On the contrary, he not only keeps them in context, he cross references the context in scripture:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1xoON5GLSw

If you would like it in segments:

Part 1 =https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4tDG4OmGs

Part 2=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcjYAMNa8uI

You may already be enough of a Bible student to go directly to part 2, but part 1 is an excellent foundation.

189 posted on 05/08/2015 2:03:12 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Just mythoughts

It’s not a “secret” rapture. It’s plainly stated in scripture several times.


192 posted on 05/08/2015 3:09:29 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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