[ExTxMarine]

Extra-Judicial punishment is always wrong.

I agree, and in these incidents, where a passenger was not buckled in is simply WRONG!

I believe that most people on FR are against THESE types of actions; however, we are not against cops using whatever force is needed to get criminals off the streets, i.e., if a criminal resists arrest - there is a good chance that he is going to get roughed up, if a criminal runs - there is a good chance that he is going to get roughed up, if a criminal pulls a weapon or attempts to take the cops weapon - they should be SHOT, etc...

The primary problem is that many people equate the latter items with the former items and those are NOT the same and are NOT related (typically). But in our society today, cops are supposed to handle a 27 year old murder suspect with kindergarten gloves, and if the cops didn't treat him like a 5 year old child, then this murder and all of his other crimes should just be ignored, forgotten, and forgiven.

[JRandomFreeper]

As long as the police follow the law as written, and do not 'add' any punishment on their own, I'm fine with police following laws.

If I don't like it, I can try to get the law changed.

But it has to be written laws that they follow, not unwritten, just because he ran rules that cops made up.

I believe that there are laws on the books about running from police. Enforce those.

/johnny

[midcop402]

I have transported literally thousands of prisoners in my time. Sunday was the first time I ever buckled one up. In order to buckle a prisoner you have to reach across the person. The subject I had was small framed, contrite and sober so I felt it was safe. He asked to be buckled. I will transport another couple dozen tomorrow (another job) and will not buckle any of those up. Officer assaults will increase dramatically if a requirement to buckle all prisoners goes into affect. I should add that MOST police vehicles do not have seatbelts in the back seat. For years Michigan State Police did not have security cages in their cars and they transported in the front seat, buckled. So it is not a new concept, just one that isn’t done on a regular basis. Transport vans would be deadly. This would require an officer to enter the transport area to secure the prisoner. I cannot think of a more unsafe action for an officer.