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To: Romans Nine

In his run up he says something along the lines of Romans 8:28 doesn’t put food on the table when your broke and kind of chuckles while saying it. His inference is you need good advice or help rather than relying on God to use your trails for His Glory and your greater good. Dave borders on the edge of a prosperity gospel, not to the extreme of many but a prosperity gospel non the less.
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Your thinking this way reminds me of the story of the guy whose house is in danger of being flooded. The police come by in a big truck and offer to take him to safety. He says he doesn’t need their help, and that the Lord will provide and take care of him. So they leave.

Later, he is now trapped on the roof of his house and the fire department comes by in a boat and offers to take him to safety. He says he doesn’t need their help, and that the Lord will provide and take care of him. So they leave.

Now he’s trapped on the very peak of his roof and a helicopter comes by and offers to take him to safety. He says he doesn’t need their help, and that the Lord will provide and take care of him. So they leave.

And a few minutes later the flood waters rise over his house and he drowns.

Now standing before the Lord, he says, “Lord, I prayed to you for help and you let me drown. Why didn’t you save me?”

And the Lord says, “I sent a truck, a boat, and a helicopter. What more did you want?”

That sure sounds like what you’re saying here. That you don’t have to work hard and save your money, but just pray to the Lord and he’ll take care of everything.

I know that despite what most people think, “God helps those who help themselves.” is not in the Bible, but it sure sounds like a pretty good way to live your life, and that’s what Dave Ramsey is saying.


12 posted on 04/28/2015 11:35:41 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: chaosagent

Nothing in my post “sounds like” I “suggested” anything. I simply stated Dave quotes Romans 8:28 and laughs which is mocking Gods word anyway you cut it.

Of course God uses means such as “big trucks, police, fire departments, boats, helicopters” etc.

What I am pointing out is while Dave certainly has some good financial advice his handling of Gods word is terrible. I suggest you pay close attention to him and see for yourself. God is still zealous for His word regardless of what the culture would have you believe.


15 posted on 04/29/2015 6:20:11 AM PDT by Romans Nine
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