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To: Romans Nine
Here is Romans 8:28 - Source

Please explain how Dave's ministry is blasphemy based on this Bible verse.

10 posted on 04/28/2015 6:41:26 PM PDT by upchuck (The current Federal Governent is what the Founding Fathers tried to prevent. WAKE UP!! Amendment V.)
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To: upchuck

First let me say that is the worst I have ever seen in an attempt to summarize a verse. I hope you don’t substitute that as a reliable “translation”. There are many good translations but whatever that was you referenced is terrible.
I recommend you get a NASB, NKJV, ESV, KJV, or some other solid translation.

Romans 8:28 NKJV
28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.

In his run up he says something along the lines of Romans 8:28 doesn’t put food on the table when your broke and kind of chuckles while saying it. His inference is you need good advice or help rather than relying on God to use your trails for His Glory and your greater good. Dave borders on the edge of a prosperity gospel, not to the extreme of many but a prosperity gospel non the less.
You may do everything the best you can according to the Scriptures and still suffer hardship but you can trust God to use it for His Glory even if you can’t explain how.
Ever read the book of Job?
Have you ever read Foxes Book of Martyrs?

I attended the funeral of a 26 year old man, a friend of mines son. As I was talking to the young mans widow she held there 2 month old baby with the 2 year old son on one side and her 3 year old son on the other. Here she is before me 3 small children widowed. What can I say to her?
I could only quote Romans 8:28 and Deuteronomy 29:29. According to Dave that wouldn’t help her.

Dave Ramsey has good advice about finances but you better get your Theology and your Doctrine from a better source.


11 posted on 04/28/2015 7:21:55 PM PDT by Romans Nine
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