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Here's what you can do on the Apple Watch without your iPhone
CNet News ^ | Thursday April 9, 2015 | by Mitchel Broussard

Posted on 04/20/2015 3:22:57 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: Swordmaker

That it!! The rose gold with rose grey strap. Soooo beautiful. The gold with the red strap ain’t to shabby either. :))


141 posted on 04/20/2015 9:50:04 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (Hey Hillary, ... liar, liar pants on fire.)
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To: Swordmaker

I read that Bruce Jenner is going to buy an Apple watch as a gift to himself for his courage in getting that sex change operation. It takes real courage to put your d*** up on the chopping block. What better gift!!

I am thinking of buying an Apple watch to evaluate it for a day or two. When I find out how lame useless it is I am going to buy a top of the line Casio. Then I will stomp that Apple watch to bits and post the video here. Then I will mail back the pieces to Tim Kook for a refund. Or get a refund from Bruce Jenner.


142 posted on 04/21/2015 3:15:57 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Jonty30
Can it tell time?

That’s all I want.

Then you need a Casio Waveceptor.

Sets itself automatically via WWVB (US government time signal station). Charges its battery via the photocell embedded in its face (no battery changing or winding needed).

However, it doesn't detect timezone changes — you have to change the timezone offset manually. If you want to automate that function as well, then the Apple Watch is a good choice. Or you could go with Seiko Astron, which uses GPS instead of WWVB, thus automatically knowing your location and, hence, your timezone, as well as the exact time.

Of course, if you already have an Apple phone, then the Apple Watch is the logical choice, since, in addition to telling time, it acts as UI extension of your phone.

143 posted on 04/21/2015 3:41:28 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Jonty30
Can it tell time?

That’s all I want.

Then you need a Casio Waveceptor.

Sets itself automatically via WWVB (US government time signal station). Charges its battery via the photocell embedded in its face (no battery changing or winding needed).

However, it doesn't detect timezone changes — you have to change the timezone offset manually. If you want to automate that function as well, then the Apple Watch is a good choice. Or you could go with Seiko Astron, which uses GPS instead of WWVB, thus automatically knowing your location and, hence, your timezone, as well as the exact time.

Of course, if you already have an Apple phone, then the Apple Watch is the logical choice, since, in addition to telling time, it acts as UI extension of your phone.

144 posted on 04/21/2015 3:41:28 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: winner3000

Some years back, the popular line was “I have yet to hear what’s so special about the Apple iPhone, except that Apple has sold a lot of them.”


145 posted on 04/21/2015 4:30:42 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Hillary:polarizing/calculating/disingenuous/insincere/ambitious/inevitable/entitled/overconfident/se)
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To: ctdonath2

I am genuinely open to minded about those reasons. Apple has a reputation of putting some functionality in different products that other Apple products don’t have in order to not cannibalize each product line by allowing consumers to “have it all” in one product (some products have better screens, others have power, yet others have USB ports, but none have all features that customers want). I am therefore expecting the watch to have something that the iphone doesn’t have. I have yet to hear of one even though I would expect that working out with an apple watch is easier than with an Iphone. If someone can make a major purchase for that small a period of time (even though a cheap tiny mp3 player could do the same), then by all means the watch would make sense.


146 posted on 04/21/2015 4:45:58 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: winner3000

The Watch’s advantage: size. Untethered, it’s a 1” iPod Touch. Leveraging a nearby iPhone, it’s an iPhone Nano.

My own increasing complaint about the iPhone is _size_. It’s too big, and getting bigger. The 4 was fine. The 5 is a bit bigger than I want. Needing an upgrade, there’s the even bigger 6. The 6+ is so big I won’t even consider it. They’re getting large enough that my pocket, prone to carrying other things, is too small.

Strap an iPhone Nano to my wrist, though, and it should resolve the hassles of the growing “phablet” format. My iPhone, whatever the size, will still be nearby (and here’s hoping it will pair with the iPad soon enough; if I’m going to haul anything around as a “base” I’d rather it be the tablet).

Don’t underestimate the hassle of “digging the phone out of my pocket”. Flick of a wrist, get to do most/all of my “quick check” actions (time, phone, weather, location, etc). The Watch handles those “quick check” actions very well ... and, as not everything need be cellular-connected always, the Watch will do much of its basic actions without the iPhone around all the time.

For those of us buried deep in the Apple ecosystem, it makes sense.
(I just wish those for whom it doesn’t make sense, starting with not having an iPhone, would quit acting like they’re being compelled to get a Watch anyway under threat of imprisonment.)


147 posted on 04/21/2015 6:18:30 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Hillary:polarizing/calculating/disingenuous/insincere/ambitious/inevitable/entitled/overconfident/se)
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To: Cementjungle
I can't for the life of me think of a reason to start wearing something like this.

I can think of three potential serious uses without even trying hard:

  1. Health/fitness monitoring - while my phone is almost always with me when I'm out, a watch would be with me 100% of the time, and will do a better job therefore tracking my fitness stats. Plus, I can leave my phone on the sidelines during soccer practices I coach, for example, and still get credit for the extra few thousand steps I'm going to take without having to worry about the bulk and weight of a phone while running around.

  2. Home automation - when I'm home, I'm less likely to have my phone physically on my person. If I'm not actively using it, it's likely on a nearby table or plugged into a charger. So, in addition to the health/fitness tracking (see above), as home automation becomes more prevalent, having a device always on my person to control the system (actively or passively) makes more and more sense. I've been predicting for a year that home automation will be the Apple Watch's "killer app", and I stand by that prediction.

  3. Apple Pay - Granted, this is more of a convenience situation, but being able to make payments by essentially just waving your hand rather than going for a wallet or phone will be very convenient in some cases (especially if you're juggling kids and/or the objects being purchased at the same time).

148 posted on 04/21/2015 7:04:15 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: kevkrom
When I exercise... whether it's walking, bicycling or swimming... I don't monitor or record anything... I never have. I can tell when I'm getting exercise without a gadget telling me if I am. My belt tells me if I'm putting on a few pounds and need to swim or walk more... so does my mirror.

Home automation: not an issue for me. I arm the alarm when I leave using my key fob (can use an app on the phone if I prefer, but the key fob is easier). Turning on the pool lights or spa jets can be done easily with the phone.

If I want to turn on/off the light in a room, I have conveniently mounted electrical switches on the walls I can easily flip with little effort. Wall switches are so easy to use my wife can do them without any instruction, so can the maid or house-sitter or anyone. Besides... the extra exercise in getting up to flip a switch is good for me... being too sedentary isn't good.

Apple Pay: whipping out a credit card is real easy... probably much easier than firing up some app on a phone or a little watch. I can also leave the card on the bill to be dealt with while I go hit the john in preparation for leaving the restaurant. Splitting the tab with friends is easy too.. we both plop our cards down and it's dealt with by the waiter.

Don't get me wrong... I have always been a friend of cool gadgets and technology. But we seem to have reached a point where stuff like this is really a matter of "solutions in search of a problem". None of this stuff is "needed" by anyone, and it's really a stretch to even suggest that any of it is even useful or time-saving.

149 posted on 04/21/2015 8:12:04 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: ctdonath2

Writing, reading. How big is the screen? About the size of the small ipod?


150 posted on 04/21/2015 8:21:59 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: ctdonath2

So, my question again... can you dictate or is there a keypad that can be used >while it is not tethered<?

And how clumsy is the UI while you are trying to use the apps?


151 posted on 04/21/2015 8:27:51 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

It’s a watch. Screen is about 1”. Don’t expect a dense complex UI ... but that doesn’t mean it’s impossible to use. You likely won’t be reading/writing long emails, but certainly can read the heading and decide whether pulling out the phone is worthwhile, or deciding that a quick voice/dictated response is appropriate. I had no problem reading it. Your vision may vary.


152 posted on 04/21/2015 8:31:32 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Hillary:polarizing/calculating/disingenuous/insincere/ambitious/inevitable/entitled/overconfident/se)
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To: dhs12345

UI is not clumsy. Might take a little getting used to (touch, swipe, force-touch, crown spin, crown button, other button), but so did the iPhone. Untethered, probably just have mostly audio recording.

It is what it is, and isn’t everything else too.


153 posted on 04/21/2015 8:42:00 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Hillary:polarizing/calculating/disingenuous/insincere/ambitious/inevitable/entitled/overconfident/se)
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To: amigatec
Isn't it amazing that over 60% of these posts, have something to do with Homo's?

It's like these Apple Haters have an obsession with gays. Maybe we can book them on Dr. Phil, I'm sure he can straighten them out. LOL

The trolling on Apple threads is getting out of hand again. If you take a look at the Microsoft threads, they are night and day. it took 6 posts for the insults to start on this one. My troll filter is filling quickly.

154 posted on 04/21/2015 10:20:55 AM PDT by zeugma ( The Clintons Could Find a Loophole in a Stop Sign)
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To: Swordmaker
A conversation using a phone on your wrist is anything but private. . . and I hate people who use speaker phones in public. That is what happens even with the Apple Watch. It allows you to handle a quick phone call, but it is not intended for long conversations on your wrist watch. For those, you get out your iPhone and have a private conversation. For this reason alone, those stand alone wrist phones will be a fail. They will make their owners social pariahs.

Here's an actual topical question for the thread. (imagine that!)

Let' say you have an iWatch. You answer the call. If you find it's a conversation you need to extend can you pull out your iPhone, and have the watch hand the call off to it? I would imagine it would, as the call actually seems to be processed on the phone and is forwarded to the watch via bluetooth.

155 posted on 04/21/2015 10:33:12 AM PDT by zeugma ( The Clintons Could Find a Loophole in a Stop Sign)
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To: dennisw
I read that Bruce Jenner is going to buy an Apple watch as a gift to himself for his courage in getting that sex change operation. It takes real courage to put your d*** up on the chopping block. What better gift!!<

I am thinking of buying an Apple watch to evaluate it for a day or two. When I find out how lame useless it is I am going to buy a top of the line Casio. Then I will stomp that Apple watch to bits and post the video here. Then I will mail back the pieces to Tim Kook for a refund. Or get a refund from Bruce Jenner.

Lying again, DennisW. You read nothing of the kind, and you'll do nothing like that. LIES! DennisW, Freerepublic's resident Baron Munchausen.

156 posted on 04/21/2015 11:05:57 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: kevkrom
I can think of three potential serious uses without even trying hard:

I saw another big one this morning on the news. . .

Wearing a health tracking device to help you know your exercise levels will get you a discount on your health and life insurance policies. One company is so convinced of the benefits they are providing a cheap tracking band for their policy holders.

157 posted on 04/21/2015 11:24:27 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: zeugma
Let' say you have an iWatch. You answer the call. If you find it's a conversation you need to extend can you pull out your iPhone, and have the watch hand the call off to it? I would imagine it would, as the call actually seems to be processed on the phone and is forwarded to the watch via bluetooth.

Simple answer. Yes.

158 posted on 04/21/2015 11:26:07 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

So Apple is hawking a downgraded Dick Tracy watch. I can see you speaking into your wrist like some kind of loon and the guy standing next to you yells out— “What’s the frequency Kenneth?”

Like I predicted. Asians are the biggest suckers for this bogus Apple watch. Gays are going to boycott it. They don’t need the headaches


159 posted on 04/21/2015 11:38:30 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Swordmaker
Simple answer. Yes.

Cool. That would be useful.

160 posted on 04/21/2015 11:57:38 AM PDT by zeugma ( The Clintons Could Find a Loophole in a Stop Sign)
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