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To: SunkenCiv; Gator113; Hawthorn; Hulka; mad_as_he$$; grey_whiskers; Yaelle; Salamander; greeneyes; ...

I posted the material below at a recent FR discussion as to whether potential cures were not being discussed or were downplayed.

No, a potential cure might not be discussed by either Democrats or Republicans. For example, the fact that NY is now trying Vitamin C to treat Covid-19 sufferers was not mentioned, and you can be sure none of the doctors like Fauci and others have mentioned it in public even though China has three clinical trials at work, which unfortunately will not be reported until Sept. Below explains why I no longer belong to either party.

While Democrats might wish to deprive Trump of any credit for helping this scourge, both parties are subject to the political donations and pressures of Big Pharma. These established treatments for other illnesses are off patent, and therefore no longer BIG money makers for the drug companies. On the other hand from their perspective Vitamin C is even worse. I checked lower cost chloroquine at GoodRX. It was $75.00 for 30 500mg tablets. The same quantity of Vitamin C tablets costing from 5 to 10 cents each would be $1.50 to $3.00. Wow!! No fortunes to be made there, for sure. And C is well known as completely safe.

New York is now reported to be using Vitamin C for treatment. https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/new-york-hospitals-treating-coronavirus-patients-with-vitamin-c/

This is good news, but they are still using doses far less then those by Dr. Cathcart in his high C treatment of 9,000 patients over 10 years. He recommends pushing C to bowel tolerance. The link is long, and very informative regarding how he treated a number of conditions. http://www.doctoryourself.com/titration.html

A Chinese doctor has transmitted his good news about Vitamin C treatment, but points out at the video that NY is not using strong enough doses. I agree with him.
https://greenbeltoutdoors.com/blogs/survival-blog/vitamin-c-in-high-doses-is-safe-in-treatment-of-coronavirus-covid-19-dr-richard-cheng

Should you have any medical, political, or military deciders, or even President Trump’s office you want to contact with the above, here is the official NIH description of at least one of the Chinese studies.
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04264533

When my son in Special Forces said the World Health Organization (WHO) was asking Google and Facebook to suppress some videos on China and Vitamin C, I was surprised. I am no longer a skeptic. So, I hope the skeptics here will be willing to consider my own recommendations based on over 45 years helping myself, my family, and others, some in deadly peril. To parallel Dr. Zelenko’s advice. In addition to what he suggests if you can find it and trust it, I propose:

1. Any person of any age not yet sick and living where infection is possible:
1 gram (1,000 milligrams) of Vit. C morning and evening.
2000 to 4000 IU of Vitamin D per day, also Vitamin K2
1 good multi-vitamin/multi-mineral morning, and evening if under stress or chronically tired, continue when sick
1 or 2 calcium/magnesium/zinc tablets a day, continue when sick
Other supplements you have researched and find sensible for your physical age and condition

2. Any person in the high-risk category even with minor symptoms
2 grams C in the morning, 1 or 2 gms. every 5 hours, 2 gms at bedtime
Continue use of other supplements, drink plenty of water

3. Any person with serious symptoms if they are not hospitalized
Continue with step 2. recommendations
Crush 10 grams of C or equivalent of powdered C and add to 12 to 20 ounce bottle of water
Have patient sip the water as they wish to level of “bowel tolerance”, see Cathcart’s link above
Allow C water bottle as often as every 6 or 8 hours
A tablespoon of honey and 1/2 teaspoon garlic powder or juice can be added to water bottle

4. For serious case try to find doctor/hospital that will use IV high dose Vitamin C if you want it. If not, sneak in the water bottles if not intubated.

In my experience, using number 2. Vitamin C doses would reduce a fever by 2 degrees: 104f to 102, 103 to 101. Using honey makes it easier to take the acidity of the C, the garlic I found especially good for the dry choke phase of a cough. Do not use unpasteurized honey for a child under 1 year. When very young and sick, I would fill a baby bottle with water, add 500mg of crushed C, a tablespoon of honey, and 1/4 teaspoon of garlic powder, mixed well. They would wake crying or coughing, grab the bottle, suck on it, fall back asleep. Good luck and please send this information to anyone who can use it or encourage authorities to look into it.


87 posted on 03/30/2020 9:00:27 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
No, a potential cure might not be discussed by either Democrats or Republicans.
The difference is, no one is saying don't give patients vitamin C, as the Demwit governors are for strictly political reasons, and they don't care who dies as a consequence. That is the reason the Demwits are all going to have to go to the gallows eventually.
Vitamins are vitamins, they aren't a cure for Coronavirus, any more than copper is (I've seen that claim around FR as well). It's quackery and wishful thinking.

88 posted on 03/30/2020 9:17:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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bkmk


90 posted on 03/31/2020 3:17:46 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: gleeaikin

Interesting read.

However, to me, China “data” or research or suggestions are nothing I pay attention to. I do not trust them at all. They evil people.

Other reports and such, from other countries, may have interesting leads and results, but I remain skeptical of ALL supposed experts and their data.

But that’s just me. . .

I’ve been drinking about 12 OZ of not-from-concentrate OJ every morning for about the past five years. Gotta have it. I still get colds and got the flue a few years back, and a couple weeks ago came down with bronchitis.

Not dead yet. . . .

Cheers,


91 posted on 03/31/2020 12:23:34 PM PDT by Hulka
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