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Interesting the Ivan went to a gas turbine engine like the Abrams.
1 posted on 03/30/2015 6:09:58 AM PDT by C19fan
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BUMP for later!


2 posted on 03/30/2015 6:13:29 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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How do you make a low profile APC with a rear engine chassis?


3 posted on 03/30/2015 6:14:42 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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Support rollers & live track, too, like U.S. vehicles have had since the 1940’s.


4 posted on 03/30/2015 6:16:11 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease.")
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Has a similar outline as the M60. And if it is that secret, why is it running down the street in Moscow in broad daylight?


5 posted on 03/30/2015 6:18:43 AM PDT by armydawg505
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Interesting the Ivan went to a gas turbine...

... and the gas is coming from eating beans... The idea of compartmentalized tank is fairly old and implementation proved to be cumbersome and expensive. Now consider the operators: the same drooling imbeciles you see in Youtube videos a lot lately. The combination will be fun to burn though :)

6 posted on 03/30/2015 6:25:04 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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The gun looks like a placeholder. The back side is very Abrams-like.


8 posted on 03/30/2015 6:30:14 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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C19, this tank doesn't cut it. Posted article reeks of disinformatsya.

This is what hip new modern tanks look like

9 posted on 03/30/2015 6:38:54 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( Obama told us what he'd do, and did it. How about your Republican Representative?)
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I don't know why the Russians still have a love for an automatic loading system for tank shells, given the notorious history of unreliability of such systems on the T-64 and T-80.
11 posted on 03/30/2015 6:48:35 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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A little off topic here but I came across this story one day.

Hundreds of rusting tanks abandoned in secret Ukrainian depot unveiled as Russia’s armoured vehicles line its streets

There are more than 400 abandoned tanks at the plant in a secret, heavily guarded depot in the town of Kharkiv

The depot is in the Slobozhanshchyna region of eastern Ukraine - just 20 miles from the border with Russia

Photographer Pavel Itkin, 18, was able to sneak into the heavily monitored site without being spotted by guards

He spent two hours walking around the barely-used repair centre taking photographs of old tanks and engines

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2572149/Stunning-images-huge-abandoned-tank-graveyard-Ukraine-machines-come-retirement-tensions-Russia-continue-escalate.html

PUBLISHED: 09:37 EST, 3 March 2014


13 posted on 03/30/2015 7:02:08 AM PDT by McGruff (Boy that Ted Cruz sure is catching alot of flak.)
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Crewless turret - long been a dream of pencil necks in the US procurement system...but you can’t navigate, or see obstacles immediately next to the tank. Cameras and periscopes can help, but nothing beats being able to look out from the top of the turret.

Gas Turbine - same hp as the M1, but interesting that the US is toying with the idea of converting M1s to a traditional diesel engine.

125 mm gun - proven effective.

Gun effective range - the range listed in the article eclipses the M1. I hope its propaganda, or the M1 range has secretly increased (its a function of the fire control system more than ammunition).

Autoloader - the Soviets and Ruskies have used for years. Cuts down on the number of conscripts needed to man the tank. But very basic functions, such as pulling security all night in shifts, favor having a 4th crew member.

Same chassis concept - A good idea on paper. The M1 chassis is actually used for a bridge layer, as an example. But a personnel carrier traditionally has a door in the REAR, for obvious reasons. The rear engine tank setup doesn’t seem to work with this.

But I’m looking at it as a tank vs tank weapon...this think might be very effective at terrorizing civilian populations in eastern Europe.


14 posted on 03/30/2015 7:02:21 AM PDT by lacrew
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Bring back the Warthog!


15 posted on 03/30/2015 7:06:59 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & Ifwater the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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Doesn’t matter all that much now. With drones, attack helos, and attack aircraft, the tank is just a show of strength on the modern battlefied. Tanks are vulnerable to even small AT crews with top attack. And if we have the tech, you know the Chinese have stolen it and sold it.

The U.S. and U.S.S.R. proved in WW2 - build enough mediocre tanks, you can overrun the best tanks in the world.


16 posted on 03/30/2015 7:12:27 AM PDT by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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The T-80B and T-80U had a gas turbine engine in them which predates this tank by 30+ years.


19 posted on 03/30/2015 7:32:10 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Making harmless people defenseless, does not make dangerous people harmless)
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T-80 had gas turbine since 1976 too.


34 posted on 03/30/2015 9:05:56 AM PDT by Paid_Russian_Troll
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40 posted on 03/31/2015 7:25:19 PM PDT by Steve0113
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