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Imagine: Remembering John Lennon's Communist Anthem
Free Republic ^ | 3/12/2015 | Jan Sobieski

Posted on 03/12/2015 12:49:36 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

Lest we forget the damage done to the moral fabric of our nation by Satan's minstrels, here are the lyrics to "Imagine" by John Lennon. A song still prominently played at most major venues and poignant to all but those who actually understand its horrifying "fundamentally transformed" implications...

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky

Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too

Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you will join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man

Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You, you may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you will join us
And the world will live as one


TOPICS: Education; History; Miscellaneous; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: atheism; beatles; communism; imagine; johnlennon; lennon; rock
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To: Gay State Conservative

That’s a difficult position to see. Everyone of them including Ringo did some -very- good work after the breakup.


21 posted on 03/12/2015 1:01:40 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: C19fan

Yes. Also, every Christmas they play “war is over, if you want it’.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN4Uu0OlmTg

It IS?


22 posted on 03/12/2015 1:02:46 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: GraceG
I don't see anything good in the song. It was God established the concept of private ownership. It was also God who established the nations by breaking up Babylon...

1. God said "you shall not steal"
2. God said "you shall not covet"

The entire song is demonic in that it seeks to undo everything God implemented.
23 posted on 03/12/2015 1:03:31 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I read once that John and Yoko actually had two apartments at the Dakota...one to live in, and one to hold all their stuff. And according to Paul McCartney, when he and John would sit down to write a song, John would say, “Let’s write a swimming pool,” or whatever he wanted to buy at the time. Nothing wrong with this, of course, but then he shouldn’t have gone around telling other people they shouldn’t want possessions.

And I never could figure out why “no heaven” is better than “heaven.” Did John not want hope of seeing his loved ones again after death?


24 posted on 03/12/2015 1:04:34 PM PDT by Nea Wood
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To: Pelham

Yes, but they are the philosophical thought leaders of our day...like it or not.


25 posted on 03/12/2015 1:04:37 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Pelham

That’s how I see it too. An artist kinda singing “it would be nice if there wasn’t suffering and killing”. And kinda taking a few jabs at some of the motivations of that. At the time nations,,,big check. At the time religion, big check with Iran, northern Ireland, etc.

I think you’re on the right track, this wasn’t deep political philosophy here.


26 posted on 03/12/2015 1:04:46 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski; detective
Someone's tagline said it better than I:

John Lennon was shot four times at arm's length. Yoko Ono, three feet away, was not harmed. Discuss.

27 posted on 03/12/2015 1:06:24 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
"and kicked myself for not stopping after “Back in the USSR”

That's was a McCartney Song.

Of course, "Revolution" and "Dear Prudence" from the same album are timeless classics and they were Lennon songs.

He was an enormously talented song writer by universal acclaim.

And, yes, also a Godless Commie.

But to deny his talent is to deny reality...as he himself often did.

28 posted on 03/12/2015 1:07:55 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Rule number 1 should have been the coveting one, it is in some ways the stark bold line that seprates civilisation from savagery.

Envy is the enemy of Civilisation.


29 posted on 03/12/2015 1:09:38 PM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: Nea Wood
I think that Heaven scares people more than "annihilation".

Heaven, by its very existence, implies that there is a judgment. Judgment means that man will give an account of his sins. Since most men love their sins, this causes great consternation.

Heaven also necessitates Hell, for those who do not want to go to heaven.
30 posted on 03/12/2015 1:10:30 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I never understood why people thought this was a song about Utopia. If we all lived for the day, there was no heaven above, no hell below; therefore no consequence to our actions....the world would be constant mayhem and anarchy.


31 posted on 03/12/2015 1:14:09 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: Jan_Sobieski; DesertRhino

“Yes, but they are the philosophical thought leaders of our day...like it or not.”

You’re singing to the choir here, I’m among the first to acknowledge the primary importance of culture. If you can dominate the popular culture you have a strong chance of driving the direction of politics as well.

This is where conservatives have dropped the ball all too often. Too many overstate the importance of political gamesmanship and abandon popular culture to the left.

Limbaugh was one of the rare exceptions to recognize this. Chronicles Magazine, formerly ‘Chronicles of Culture’, was another.


32 posted on 03/12/2015 1:23:59 PM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Thank you, Jan, for reminding us.

It is sobering to see how long we were asleep and let treason and sedition flourish, even as our entertainment.

(Although, I could not stand the Beatles, either before or after they became 60’s cool and infamous for their socialist and Marx loving tendencies.)


33 posted on 03/12/2015 1:32:01 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

When you live for today, you have no hope for tomorrow.


34 posted on 03/12/2015 1:32:56 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Pelham
Yes! I agree.

Another thought...Jesus never advocated communism in the least. He advocated personal ownership and personal giving. However, it seems as though pop Christian songs promote more of a "Christian Communist" worldview (similar to Liberation Theology)
35 posted on 03/12/2015 1:33:00 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: bgill

Amen!


36 posted on 03/12/2015 1:33:22 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: edpc

Very insightful response!


37 posted on 03/12/2015 1:34:26 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski; Mariner

“I quit listening after “Imagine”...and kicked myself for not stopping after “Back in the USSR””

You lasted longer than I did. I was in Jr High when the Beatles arrived like an invading army. There’s never been anything like that since. Some of my musician friends think their early stuff is too simplistic but I still like it.

And they were still good through Rubber Soul. Yesterday and Today. Revolver. Those were good albums, interesting music. Sgt Peppers, not so much IMO and very little that followed after.


38 posted on 03/12/2015 1:34:52 PM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: C19fan
I heard storied about he was going to the right when he was murdered

I heard the same stories.

I also listened to an interview in which he defended Dylan's conversion to Christianity.

39 posted on 03/12/2015 1:36:29 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: C19fan

I don’t hear “Imagine” at Christmas. However, I do hear over and over “Happy Xmas (War Is Over)”

Here are the lyrics:

So, this is Christmas
And what have you done?
Another year over
And a new one just begun

And so this is Christmas
I hope you have fun
The near and the dear one
The old and the young

A very merry Christmas
And a happy New Year
Lets hope it’s a good one
Without any fear

And so this is Christmas
For weak and for strong
For rich and the poor ones
The road is so long

And so happy Christmas
For black and for white
For yellow and red ones
Let’s stop all the fight

A very merry Christmas
And a happy New Year
Let’s hope it’s a good one
Without any fear

And so this is Christmas
And what have we done
Another year over
And a new one just begun

And so happy Christmas
We hope you have fun
The near and the dear one
The old and the young

A very merry Christmas
And a happy New Year
Let’s hope it’s a good one
Without any fear

War is over
If you want it
War is over
Now


40 posted on 03/12/2015 1:42:16 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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