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To: ifinnegan

Christians should not be “fine with materialistic science”. That position denies the existence of our creator, God. They posit that there is no spiritual world and work overtime to build models which obscure the evidence of His existence.

I would suggest this video:
http://www.meta-library.net/cosmcrea/newcosm-frame.html

Stephen Myer gives a history of cosmology and how Einstein and Hubble concluded that the conjecture of an infinite universe is wrong. He also talks about how scientists railed against that finding since it left them unable to exclude the possibility of a created universe.


32 posted on 02/13/2015 10:03:12 AM PST by the_Watchman
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To: the_Watchman

“Christians should not be “fine with materialistic science”.

Science can only be materialistic only material things can be quanitatively measured

“That position denies the existence of our creator, God.”

Wrong. Studying the material world, God’s creation, in no way denies God.

You are mixing up the attempt to use science to promote a materialist atheistic philosophy with science which cannot and does not address God directly in any way.

This actually is what the liberals want you to do. They want to set faith vs science and vice versa. When in fact, science is ours. It is one of the many triumphs of Christian history.


37 posted on 02/13/2015 10:18:48 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: the_Watchman

I’m not going to watch an hour of Stephen Meyer to find out what you mean.

I like a lot of Stephen Meyer and suffice it to say that, regarding this thread, Meyers in no way is a supporter of, or in agreement with, Sheldrake.

As far as materialistic science, Meyer’s does fully agree with me and you are mixing up the New Atheism advocacy with Materialistic science.

That is actually what the Dawkins of the world want you to do.

They are wrong in their contention that science necessitates a materialistic atheistic worldview.

Just because science cannot address non-material non-physical things does not mean things such as God or spirit cannot exist.


51 posted on 02/13/2015 12:21:58 PM PST by ifinnegan
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