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To: GBA
I prefer the form of freedom that is based upon individual responsibility, with individuals accepting the consequences for their own actions, over the police state that regulates freedom and mandates "state accepted" human behaviors and can then violate the Bill of Rights whenever it feels so justified.

I am well familiar with what Libertarians claim to believe. It is an ever present tendency in them to disregard any consequences for these beliefs that is not instantly and proximately causal to injuries sustained. They simply ignore the damage to others.

Too bad we've failed at regulating our need to regulate, control and criminalize based upon the whims and loud voices of a few.

If only it were about people's desire to regulate. I know Libertarians constantly assert that it is, but as I said earlier, they constantly disregard any proof that it isn't. They simply will not acknowledge that the pursuit of certain indulgences harm other people.

173 posted on 02/12/2015 10:10:01 AM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp
Fwiw, I don't label myself as being a libertarian, though I did call myself a Christian libertarian briefly until the label was altered, like so many other definitions are these days, and stopped defining what I believed.

They simply will not acknowledge that the pursuit of certain indulgences harm other people.

That is a rather broad statement or accusation that doesn't seem to be supportable nor discussable without specifics.

If you are about attempting to create a risk-free world/society where no one can harm you, either intentionally or unintentionally, I'm certain I don't want to share it with you.

That sort of "Utopia" is not for me. Others throughout history have tried to create such a thing and it's always turns into a Beast.

Personally, I think we are here in "Schoolhouse Earth" to learn and sometimes we learn best from the good, bad and ugly examples of others.

Sometimes accidents happen, too, even to people who are not under the influence of anything other than life itself.

All part of the lesson plan.

175 posted on 02/12/2015 10:27:47 AM PST by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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