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Army Ranger prep course passed by 5 out of 26 women
The Washington Times ^ | , February 4, 2015 | By Douglas Ernst

Posted on 02/05/2015 2:55:07 PM PST by Chode

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To: jdsteel

Thank you and thanks to your son for serving as a US Army Ranger. It is no easy task but he will agree with me that the pride and comradeship that comes with it is life changing.


41 posted on 02/05/2015 5:55:12 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: TADSLOS
God help us
42 posted on 02/05/2015 6:44:58 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: neocon1984
yeah, female prisoners get rapped first...
43 posted on 02/05/2015 6:56:22 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: MSF BU

Ranger School has always been a leadership course and focused on officers. I have no issue with this as officers need to demonstrate their ability to lead in stressful circumstances. But any nonsense that officers are the key to combat effectiveness need to be set aside. Officers need to lead the way, they need to translate the commanders intent into specific tasks and they need to set the example. And, they need to die well.


44 posted on 02/05/2015 7:15:49 PM PST by centurion316
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To: TADSLOS

Ranger School has nothing to do with physical fitness or the ability to lead soldiers in combat operations. Ranger School has everything to do with discovering your own physical and mental limits and discovering how to exceed your own physical and mental limitations. None of us can do it all. But, we all can do more than we think that we can do, and learning what those limits might be are invaluable.

The feminists lobby has no clue what we are discussing. They want everything to be measured by the starting point differences between male and female physiography and ignore the differences between mental attitude and toughness. In every case, the feminists approach will produce a pack of losers.


45 posted on 02/05/2015 7:33:46 PM PST by centurion316
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To: Chode; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Active Duty ping.


46 posted on 02/05/2015 7:36:33 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Chode

Must have been a “mild” winter in the “Florida jungle”.


47 posted on 02/05/2015 7:41:13 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jet Jaguar
i fear the tipping point has been reached and there's simply no way to reverse the damage the boy has done
48 posted on 02/05/2015 7:59:55 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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49 posted on 02/05/2015 8:06:40 PM PST by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: Chode

I tend to agree.


50 posted on 02/05/2015 8:06:54 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Delta 21
isn't that cute...
51 posted on 02/05/2015 8:15:15 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: centurion316
Officially, the Ranger Course is billed as a small unit combat leader course using combat patrolling as the mechanism to test students ability to lead at any given moment under extremely demanding conditions, but you are correct in that the true value of the Ranger Course is realizing that you can do more physically and mentally than you ever thought possible- and everyone briefly hits their personal wall at various stages throughout the course and relies on other students to pick up the slack to accomplish whatever the assigned mission is.

Also, Peer Evaluations have always been a key grading ingredient in Ranger training. The weak sisters simply did not last, even if they were physically fit, but mentally or emotionally unreliable with their peers. You could pass the physical events and even pass patrols in a leadership role graded by cadre but still fail based on poor peer eval scores. If you didn't pull your own weight with your fellow Ranger students on a regular basis you were gone, so what you describe is spot on.

52 posted on 02/05/2015 8:28:01 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: TADSLOS

I have no issues with women attempting Ranger school. Its an elite school but that wont put women on the front lines if they happen to pass(without lowering standards). They would simply be tab rangers who passed the rangers developement school. They wont be spec op scroll rangers, thats a different beast involves another ranger school and is barred to women. That being said we know the unshaven feminist want GI Jane to happen.


53 posted on 02/05/2015 10:31:25 PM PST by aft_lizard
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To: yarddog

The Big Texan in Amarillo serves it, or did 25 years ago when I was there. It tasted like something battered and fried.


54 posted on 02/05/2015 10:39:21 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Monterrosa-24

That said, I have seen some damn fine female runners and sit-uppers. I’ve never run across a good female push-upper and even fewer pull-uppers. They don’t exist.

As general rules: Women have great stamina; They don’t have great strength. That’s simple human physiology 101.

All other things equal besides the PT test, on any given cycle there should be zero females make it through Ranger school. Every few cycles, you might see a success.


55 posted on 02/06/2015 5:29:55 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: aft_lizard
You do realize that every member of the Ranger Regiment must, at some point graduate from the Ranger Course and be tabbed. Junior enlisted soldiers in the Regiment attend Pre Ranger Training Assessment Course to ensure success in the Ranger Course. Failing that or the Ranger Course means dismissal from the Regiment and re-assignment. I am fully aware that life in the Regiment is a whole other animal with their own training standards, but every Ranger's true starting point is through that course.

Now, the standards are about to be diminished to allow females to pass through it to prove a leftist, feminist point, and if you think that females will never darken the door of the Ranger Regiment or any other special operations unit traditionally closed to women for good reason, think again. The rabid left thinks and acts in incremental terms.

56 posted on 02/06/2015 6:46:27 AM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: TADSLOS

I realize that but you can be in the 75th after airborne and RASP and not go through Ranger School for awhile, as you know it depends on slots although being in the 75th will give you priority. If you also have a specialty you may have to push Ranger School back further in order to qualify in your specialty. That all being said its barred to women, so its not like a woman who passes the school will see the fight.


57 posted on 02/06/2015 11:33:58 AM PST by aft_lizard
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To: aft_lizard
Yet...

There are already plans in the works to allow females into combat arms MOSs, including infantry assignments, and ALL of this military social lab experimentation leads to reduced combat effectiveness and worse. So, brushing this off as some kind of lark that won't affect combat arms and special operations units is myopic. One step of "validation" leads to the other.

58 posted on 02/06/2015 12:48:17 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: aft_lizard

Does it matter if they wear a Ranger Scroll or an 82d Patch? All it indicates to me is that a worthy enlisted guy never got to go...and trust me, this includes the enlisted guy in the 75th.


59 posted on 02/06/2015 3:49:36 PM PST by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: TADSLOS

Ranger tabs were given out like bubblegum to the West Point Military Academy ring knocker cadets when they passed through a few years before you made the scene!


60 posted on 02/06/2015 5:52:13 PM PST by JDoutrider
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