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California lawmakers aim to limit vaccine exemptions
myfoxchicago.com / ap ^ | 2-4-2015 | FENIT NIRAPPIL

Posted on 02/04/2015 12:59:54 PM PST by Citizen Zed

Edited on 02/04/2015 1:19:43 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

California lawmakers are proposing legislation that would require parents to vaccinate all school children unless a child's health is in danger, joining only two other states with such stringent restrictions.

Parents could no longer cite personal beliefs or religious reasons to send unvaccinated children to school under a proposal introduced Wednesday after dozens of people have fallen ill from a measles outbreak that started at Disneyland. Mississippi and West Virginia are the only other states with such strict vaccine rules, though the California bill's chief author said he would consider including a religious exemption, as allowed under current law.


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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: antivax; antivaxxer; antivaxxers; california
Does this include that STD vaccination for HPV?
1 posted on 02/04/2015 12:59:54 PM PST by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

Does this include children of undocumented guest workers?


2 posted on 02/04/2015 1:01:48 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Citizen Zed
Does this include that STD vaccination for HPV?

Probably the goal of all this. Funny. Much of the anti-vax movement seems to have started in Californication land.

3 posted on 02/04/2015 1:03:14 PM PST by Ingtar (Is this the Ebola and rumors of Ebola mentioned in the Bible?)
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To: Ingtar

4 posted on 02/04/2015 1:07:27 PM PST by WakeUpAndVote
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To: Citizen Zed

No religious or philosophical exemptions, but there will be exemptions for illegal aliens.


5 posted on 02/04/2015 1:09:32 PM PST by Politicalkiddo ("Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young..." -1 Timothy 4:12)
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To: Politicalkiddo

How do Muslims stand on this?


6 posted on 02/04/2015 1:11:49 PM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Citizen Zed

The Supremes will eventually weigh in on this. Might as well schedule it now.


7 posted on 02/04/2015 1:13:39 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

Interesting that you post “fiction”...


8 posted on 02/04/2015 1:14:58 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Politicalkiddo

[ No religious or philosophical exemptions, but there will be exemptions for illegal aliens. ]

There is already an exemption for illegals....

It is called just being here without the government deporting their sorry asses...


9 posted on 02/04/2015 1:22:41 PM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: Citizen Zed
The fundamental transformation continues. What is the difference between forced vaccinations, and forcing companies to pay for contraception/abortion for the "good of society"? What happens when a "single child policy" or "sterilization" policy comes for the "good of society"...

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. - Clive Staples Lewis
10 posted on 02/04/2015 1:26:32 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: GraceG

Yeah. The law doesn’t apply to them.


11 posted on 02/04/2015 1:27:24 PM PST by Politicalkiddo ("Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young..." -1 Timothy 4:12)
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To: Jan_Sobieski; WakeUpAndVote
>> [picture depicting a scene from House; against refraining from immunization]
>
> Interesting that you post “fiction”...

From UC Santa Barbra:

NAZI WAR CRIMES OF A MEDICAL NATURE
In order to ensure the supremacy of the Aryan race, the Nazi Party in Germany desired to find a secret way of sterilizing large populations. Three experiments involving sterilization were in progress when World War II ended in 1945.
1.   Dried plant juice was put into food that was fed to concentration camp populations.  This was supposed to sterilize women predominantly.
2.   Intra-uterine injections of a silver nitrate solution were given to women, without their consent, during routine physical examinations.
3.   Men stood at a counter to complete forms while being exposed, without their knowledge, to sterilizing doses of X-radiation.
In addition to sterilization experiments, Nazi physician/researchers were under great pressure to develop an effective vaccine for typhus fever to administer to German troops. At Buchenwald concentration camp, experiments were conducted in which prisoners were administered vaccine (or placebo) and then injected with blood from patients with typhus fever. Between 1942 and 1943, about 729 people were subjected to such experiments and 154 died. In addition, other prisoners served as a “passage group.” In order to keep the virus alive and virulent, the researchers would inject the virus into prisoners. When these people developed the acute illness, their blood was removed and injected into other prisoners.

The horrors of the preceding and many other “experiments,” were exposed during and after World War II. The people who conducted these experiments were tried separately from other Nazi war criminals because of their professional status as physicians and the atrocious nature of their crimes.

During the trial at Nuremberg, fundamental ethical principles for the conduct of research involving humans were codifies into the Nuremberg Code which sets forth ten conditions that must be met before research involving humans is ethically permissible (e.g., the need for voluntary informed consent of subjects, a scientifically valid research design that could provide fruitful results for the good of society). The Nuremberg Code became the first international standard for the conduct of research.

To date, little use has been made of the data generated from the Nazi experiments. There is ongoing discussion in scientific and ethics communities concerning whether it is ethically permissible to use or publish the data.

There's also some evidence/accusation of such programs here in the US.

The question I ask is this:
Do you trust the government to make medical decisions regarding yourself to be in your own best interests? Why or why not?

12 posted on 02/04/2015 1:29:00 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Children of God for Life’s chart of vaccines made with aborted baby: http://www.cogforlife.org/vaccineListOrigFormat.pdf


13 posted on 02/04/2015 2:00:32 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Lawdy, lawdy - this is my neck of the woods, and we know which way the ball bounces here.

Over the years we’ve had to do ‘battle’ with this subject - and fluoridation - and I’m concerned I’m too old and tired to continue the fight - - -
We have children and grandchildren who will probably (I hope and pray) pick up the mantle.

Permit me to induldge:
One is a public school teacher, the other is a homeschool teacher.
One will be a biomedical engineer.
Another, a computer dude, or chef!
A speech therapist.
Kind of good positions to fight from - - -
Don’t know yet about the younger ones. . .

I need to retire.


14 posted on 02/04/2015 2:07:38 PM PST by USARightSide (S U P P O R T I N G OUR T R O O P S)
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To: USARightSide

OOps
PS Forgot the financial planner and the peace officer - - - : }


15 posted on 02/04/2015 2:09:15 PM PST by USARightSide (S U P P O R T I N G OUR T R O O P S)
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To: Citizen Zed

There are many, many, many vaccination variables. Vaccines are in no possible way all the same. What this legislation I’d about, however, is exactly that - treating them all the same.

Like what they do with gun statistics, treating every use of a gun, criminal or self-defense against criminals, as the same.

This is bad, bad news, and FReepers who think this is about child safety should understand that the creators of Obamacare and gun laws are the ones who agree with you.


16 posted on 02/04/2015 2:09:54 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Don't let government stick their foot in the door on this, not with government health care, or soon they will be sticking needles with the substance of their choosing in your butt using the same precedent.

As always, the government causes the problem, letting diseased illegals sit among our children at gubbermint schools, then government wants to take away our freedom to 'fix' the problem.

Once again, they pee on us and tell us it's raining, and now they want to mandate use of an approved umbrella too.

17 posted on 02/04/2015 3:12:31 PM PST by disclaimer
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