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To: over3Owithabrain

First, we do not know that the footballs were the same for each team at the time of testing 2 1/4 hours prior to game time. We do know that ALL the footballs provided by each team were within the league limits.

Second, we do not know that ALL the Patriots footballs were 2 psi below the minimum limits. I have read in the initial statement by the NFL refs that TWO of the twelve footballs originally submitted tested at 2 psi low.

Third, as I have stated earlier, the balls retested at halftime had just spent over two hours in game conditions (51 degrees at kickoff - 45 degrees at halftime). The balls, bladders and the air within them were at game time temps at the time they were taken into the refs locker room for retesting. The halftime is brief. The addition of a pound or two of pressure (at indoor temperatures) would have a very small effect on these footballs as they were immediately returned to the field of play.

I don’t have a dog in this fight. What I am appalled at is the insistence of cheating where we do not have sufficient evidence (in this case data) to determine what if any infractions occurred. I watched a video this evening of a demonstration of the effects of temperature and moisture on NFL regulation footballs. The testing was set up on eight Wilson footballs inflated at 12.5 psi at 72 degrees F. The balls were dampened and subsequently cooled to 45 degrees F, simulating game conditions. The average loss of pressure was measured at 1.85 psi. That means a great deal more to me than waving flags of suspicious outrage.


105 posted on 01/24/2015 10:20:30 PM PST by T. Rustin Noone (the angel wanna wear my red shoes......)
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To: T. Rustin Noone
The Colts footballs would then be below legal limits, even if we assume they started at the highest level 13.5, if the test you saw is realistic with a 1.8 psi drop. Answer that?

Also it's a false assumption that every football was sitting at 45 degrees just because it was 45 degrees outside. The benches get warmed where the extra balls could be resting. They also get warmer hands on them and movement. Sorry but the simplest explanation holds - 11 of 12 Pats footballs were illegal, 0 of 12 Colts balls were.

They cheated. Again. I don't expect everyone to accept that. People yelled for years that Lance Armstrong wouldn't lie and cheat and came up with every possible alternative explanation. Here it's even worse since the accused parties are proven cheats and all the evidence points to further cheating here.
107 posted on 01/24/2015 10:33:13 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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