Posted on 01/21/2015 2:28:08 PM PST by BBell
Chris Kyle, the now-deceased Navy SEAL who is celebrated in Clint Eastwood's movie "American Sniper" was a proved liar. Jesse Ventura, the former military man, wrestler and governor of Minnesota, sued Kyle before he died, claiming that he defamed Ventura in his memoir, "American Sniper." Kyle claims to have punched out Ventura in a bar after Ventura bad-mouthed the troops who'd been sent to Iraq. Kyle was killed before the trial, but a jury determined that none of what he had written about Ventura was true and awarded Ventura $1.8 million.
Because he's a proved liar, we should be awfully skeptical about Kyle's claim that the U.S. government sent him into New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. They perched him atop the Superdome, he said, and it was from there that he picked off 30 looters in the city.
A June 2014 Washington Post report about Kyle's "unverifiable legacy" doesn't outright call the celebrated sniper a liar, but it nudges the reader toward that conclusion. After including a quote from one of Kyle's officers who said, "I never heard that story," the Washington Post writes, "Does that mean it didn't happen? Who knows.
(Excerpt) Read more at nola.com ...
Judging from the comments the local paper may lose what few subscribers it has left.
I would urge any remaining subscribers to cancel their subscription IMMEDIATELY.
Did he really write this?
Different story here.
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/did-special-forces-snipers-kill-americans-after-katrina/
Former Navy SEAL sniper Brandon Webb charges that some of his colleagues killed American citizens in New Orleans during Katrinas aftermath.
SOFREP (The Long Shadow Of Katrina: Military Snipers Engaging U.S. Citizens?):
In early 2012, I had an unexpected conversation with my friend Chris Kyle (author of American Sniper) about the Katrina debacle. I had heard rumblings about Special Operations (mainly SEALs) snipers being deployed to New Orleans to support the effort to restore order. He confirmed the rumors and shared his own intimate knowledge that close contacts of his, many who were apparently still serving on active duty, took leave to work for the controversial PMC (Private Military Company),Blackwater.
Chris went on to tell me that the bulk of the guys he knew directly had racked up over thirty kills between them near and around the Super Dome. I asked him about Rules of Engagement, and asked, Who were they shooting at, and he just gave me a big Texas shrug and smile. I figured out really quick that it was 180 grains of due process (usually to the head at 200M).
Steve Hynd is understandably upset.
Coming from such a source, these accusations have to be taken seriously accusations that US military snipers killed US citizens inside the US with no due process of law whatsoever, acting as judge jury and executioner. The Bush administration would have to have signed off on the whole thing.
This is why the recent debate on Obamas signature killing program has focused too much on the method of killing drones and too little on the lack of constitutional justification. You dont need a drone to perform extrajudicial killings, not even of US citizens. If this story is true, then yet again Obama is only following Bushs lead.
Webb writes that he is bothered by what Kyle told him. Ill go further. Im horrified and angered. Those who set up this program are criminals of the highest order but so too are the supposed heroes of special forces who participated. Even if they were ordered to do this, they should have refused.
Well, yes. It would have been a violation of their oath, which is to the Constitution.
I had not heard it before.
Thank you.
Check post 6 and 7.
Where did Kyle make that claim?
Thanks, I read 6 and 7.
I had never heard of this before.
I cannot imagine anyone approving this in the US on a large, unrestricted scale.
Can I believe that we have had assasinations in this country? Sure. One at a time in remote places or during times when no one would notice.
But in a place with the number of people running around with cameras? And thirty people shot down in the street? It just seems stupid.
I would believe it more it you were telling me they were shooting space aliens. (Not you specifically P_Dad, but in general.)
And difficult to cover up.
“But in a place with the number of people running around with cameras?”
Yeah, how many news helicopter shots of the roof of the Superdome were we getting every single day for weeks? They must have had some great camoflage if they were up there.
Seems a very silly place to put snipers anyway, because I don’t think there is much worth looting withing shooting distance of the Superdome.
Before I accept a single word of this story, I would require proof.
Proof.
I want an autopsy report on a single body that had a head blown off by a sniper.
This would be murder, especially if done by a civilian working for Blackwater; even so if the person was on active duty or even a sworn law enforcement officer. You cannot just shoot to kill American citizens from afar in law enforcement. Emergency or not. How would we know if they were guilty or not? What if they were trying to get people to stop looting, for example?
It is worse than what Clinton did at Waco, or George Bush (he first) at Ruby Ridge. Much worse.
Nope. I don’t believe it.
When I read about it, it was a story a friend relayed about a get together with Kyle. It is second hand hearsay and was probably a bunch of SEALS talking big like all of us do about what could be done with the worthless looters. The story got distorted.
As for the Ventura thing, I wish someone would punch that wind bag in the mouth.
BULL CRAP on this Katrina slander.
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