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To: FreedomStar3028
"Same exact characters."

OK let's see. Where is Admiral Pike in Wrath of Khan? Same for Fleet Admiral Alexander Marcus?

Where is Captain Terrell, LT. SAAVIK. or Kirk's son David Marcus in "Into Darkness"...

Nearly the same dialogue, word for word.

Opening scene in Wrath of Khan is supposedly on the bridge of a Starship with LT. Saavik talking. A situation develops wherein they are attacked by a Klingon Vessel while trying to rescue a supposedly disabled ship the Kobayashi Maru.

Opening Scene in Into Darkness is on the Planet Nibiru where Bones and Kirk are running away from a primitive tribe while Spock is down inside a Volcano.

Logic tells me if they both use the same dialog it will at the very least be confusing being the same people aren't involved in the conversation AND they are in two totally different settings.

"Same scenes, with prettier effects,"

See above. But if we have the same scenes where is the Genesis Torpedo and where is the scene where they set it off in Into Darkness? Where is the scene in Wrath of Khan that has Admiral Marcus attacking the Enterprise with the Vengence? Where are the scenes where the Admiral's plan to start a war with the Klingons by blaming them for the destruction of the Enterprise is revealed?

So again no its not the same it has some of the same characters but they are in different scenes with different dialog and the Into Darkness script has some scenes that are just plain stupid. Like having Spock inside a live volcano.

78 posted on 01/21/2015 12:11:41 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

The only scenes of memorability are lifted directly from Wrath of Kahn, and changed enough to pass a plagiarism test.

Therefore it stands to reason that my conclusion is correct. People will always(those with any brains) rather watch Wrath of Kahn. Instead of Star Trek: Into Wrath of Kahn (but different: we promise).

You sound like you COULD be Abrams himself. Defend your plagiarism all you want. You get a pass to ruin many beloved stories because you can make your master money.
I would rather watch Wrath of Kahn on the first video cassette then watch into plagiarism on high definition.

I can’t wait until Abrams ruins Star Wars too. But it never had any depth at all to begin with, so I think it’s a safe bet to let that ravenous progressive hack at the canon of arguably the most widely beloved science fiction story of all time. Let him fill your brain with mush all you want. I for one will not be fooled.


79 posted on 01/21/2015 12:36:14 AM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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