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How long before his head is mounted on a stick, in the name of God?
1 posted on 01/04/2015 8:23:37 AM PST by Beave Meister
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To: Beave Meister
Sad that our current emperor doesn't support him and wants him gone. . .our current emperor wants the MB running Egypt.
2 posted on 01/04/2015 8:27:01 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Beave Meister
On the other hand, perhaps the "Man of Peace" will be a muslim.

Yeah, I can see that angle.

3 posted on 01/04/2015 8:27:14 AM PST by 9thLife (Barack Hussein Obama is one of them.)
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To: Beave Meister
It’s inconceivable that the thinking that we hold most sacred should cause the entire umma [Islamic world] to be a source of anxiety, danger, killing and destruction for the rest of the world. Impossible!

This heretic doesn't understand the fundmentals of his own Muslim religion.

He may end up like Anwar Sadat who wanted to play nice with us Infidels.-Tom

4 posted on 01/04/2015 8:30:02 AM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse U.S. citizens and Americans. They are not necessarily the same. -tom)
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To: Beave Meister

A shockingly candid speech, from what must now be the bravest man on the planet.


5 posted on 01/04/2015 8:35:41 AM PST by Paradox (and now here we are....)
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To: Beave Meister

Tbe world press can’t cover this because that would mean acknowledging that the current muslim population is indeed being instructed by their religeous leaders to kill the rest of the non-muslim world.

Oooh the truth! It burns!!


6 posted on 01/04/2015 8:36:18 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Run Ted, Run!!! Mors continere monstra)
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To: Beave Meister
I say and repeat again that we are in need of a religious revolution. You, imams, are responsible before Allah. The entire world, I say it again, the entire world is waiting for your next move… because this umma is being torn, it is being destroyed, it is being lost—and it is being lost by our own hands.

Yes, it is being defeated. But if it was winning, would this guy be for it?

7 posted on 01/04/2015 8:36:46 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: Beave Meister
It seems like it should be OK to post the translated key parts of the speech from a blogger. This could well be a truly historic speech by Sisi and should be read by every Freeper.

Since he is disliked so much by Obama and Hillary and Company one has to consider the possibility that we really have an Islamic Good Guy in the making. Hoping so.

Here are the key parts as translated on Raymond Ibrahim’s blog:

I am referring here to the religious clerics. We have to think hard about what we are facing—and I have, in fact, addressed this topic a couple of times before. It’s inconceivable that the thinking that we hold most sacred should cause the entire umma [Islamic world] to be a source of anxiety, danger, killing and destruction for the rest of the world. Impossible!

That thinking—I am not saying “religion” but “thinking”—that corpus of texts and ideas that we have sacralized over the years, to the point that departing from them has become almost impossible, is antagonizing the entire world. It’s antagonizing the entire world!

Is it possible that 1.6 billion people [Muslims] should want to kill the rest of the world’s inhabitants—that is 7 billion—so that they themselves may live? Impossible!

I am saying these words here at Al Azhar, before this assembly of scholars and ulema—Allah Almighty be witness to your truth on Judgment Day concerning that which I’m talking about now.

All this that I am telling you, you cannot feel it if you remain trapped within this mindset. You need to step outside of yourselves to be able to observe it and reflect on it from a more enlightened perspective.

I say and repeat again that we are in need of a religious revolution. You, imams, are responsible before Allah. The entire world, I say it again, the entire world is waiting for your next move… because this umma is being torn, it is being destroyed, it is being lost—and it is being lost by our own hands. [bolds mine]

8 posted on 01/04/2015 8:38:06 AM PST by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: Beave Meister

The thing about the Koran is that if I read it right you could defend a very wide variety of stances depending on your strategic position at the time.


11 posted on 01/04/2015 8:40:09 AM PST by BlackAdderess
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To: Beave Meister
Wow..

Interesting that what Sisi said is so profound and alarming to the radical Islamist...

Any person outside of Islam can see what he said clear as day is needed to be said...

In a less bizarre world this would be a non-story..

I wonder how fast Obama will have Kerry on the phone trying to get Sisi to walk back or modify his speech...

17 posted on 01/04/2015 9:16:35 AM PST by Popman
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To: Beave Meister
Islam would do well to open a school following the percepts of Islam greatest philosopher, Averroes. All these idiots with their multiculturalism and alleged cultural sensitivity never mention him. A...reverse Muslim Thomas Acquinas managed to move the Muslim population against Averroes because the Muslims were losing territory while he was alive and those reversals were unfortunately blamed on him.

Al Sisi, with his power and influence, can staff Al Azhar University with Muslim scholars who still know Averroes and maybe that would help.

21 posted on 01/04/2015 9:36:31 AM PST by Stepan12 (Our present appeasement of Islam is the Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.)
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To: Beave Meister

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23 posted on 01/04/2015 9:45:13 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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24 posted on 01/04/2015 9:46:05 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Beave Meister
This is something no Western leader has the had the courage to do, certainly not Barack Obama, despite his Muslim education.

Re Obama, that should read, "despite his Muslim indoctrination and belief.

26 posted on 01/04/2015 10:08:49 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Beave Meister

There is a big problem with attempting to start an Islamic Reformation.

There are just too many things wrong with islam that trying to nail them to the mosque’s front door would be like attempting to attach the Manhattan Phone directory with a staple gun..


27 posted on 01/04/2015 10:19:08 AM PST by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Beave Meister
Islam cannot be reformed without changeing it into an entirely different religion. The religion is centered on Mohammed, not on Allah and that makes it unreformable. With all the wild and wacky variations that developed from that portion of Christianity that jumped off the ship in the Reformation they are still almost all Christians. Those that are not, don't call themselves Christians ̣(Unitarians and such) except arguably Mormons. Christianity is a belief in the Divinity. Islam is a belief in a man, Mohammed. How he lived his life and what he thought and did is the model for all Moslems. A reformation would have to exclude Mohammed or deny that he was the Perfect Man which denies the very basic tenets of that faith.
30 posted on 01/04/2015 10:44:06 AM PST by arthurus
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To: Beave Meister
Islam cannot be reformed without changeing it into an entirely different religion. The religion is centered on Mohammed, not on Allah and that makes it unreformable. With all the wild and wacky variations that developed from that portion of Christianity that jumped off the ship in the Reformation they are still almost all Christians. Those that are not, don't call themselves Christians ̣(Unitarians and such) except arguably Mormons. Christianity is a belief in the Divinity. Islam is a belief in a man, Mohammed. How he lived his life and what he thought and did is the detailed and exact model for all Moslems. A reformation would have to exclude Mohammed or deny that he was the Perfect Man which denies the very basic tenets of that faith.
31 posted on 01/04/2015 10:44:59 AM PST by arthurus
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To: Beave Meister

In context, Sisi might be doing the equivalent of asserting nationalism, which has a peculiarly Egyptian history.

That is, Islamic radicals and fundamentalists always push for the equivalent of internationalism, of the Muslim form, which is a return to an expansionistic type of Ottoman Empire, but with them in charge. Sultan as absolute ruler. (The Shiite version of this is similar, but with an expansionistic Shiite Empire, the “Shiite Crescent” taken from the Sunni lands.)

But the secular counter to this is nationalism. Many of the Muslim nations think of themselves as better than the “Arabs”, their derogatory name for Muslims from other countries.

The Turks, Egyptians and other North Africans, Saudis and the Bedouin in Jordan, as well as the Persian Shiites, all think of themselves as a cut above everyone else.

Previously, under pressure from the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian president Gamal Nasser went the route of popular nationalism, and was thus able to both suppress the MB as well as form the United Arab Republic with Syria, and smite the communists there, which he also correctly imagined a threat to Egypt.

But such nationalism is always multi-faceted, what we might call “two-faced”. Because Nasser was still expansionistic, wanting a pan-Arabic secular empire *with* Islam, but not ruled by it. So he played games with both the western powers and the Soviet Union, but could never be trusted.

In any event, Sisi might be moving in the direction of Nasser, at least to the point of suppressing the MB; but from there, it is anybody’s guess.


40 posted on 01/05/2015 7:09:26 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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