Posted on 12/31/2014 1:15:30 PM PST by FlJoePa
This is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to these emails. This is not the stuff the ncaa, b1g, PSU 11-11 b.o.t. are hiding. That is to come soon.
What I’d like to see is the removal of all posts regarding Pedophile State University.
Good luck with that.
AS an Alabama fan, I can sympathize with your loathing of the NCAA. They are scoundrels. They will lie and cheat to get what they want.
But I have little sympathy for Penn State. The Penn St admin knew that Sandusky had lots of ugly issues bubbling. They turned a blind eye.
Having been around a sports locker room for several years, I know that other coaches knew about Sandusky. You don’t hide something like that.
The PSU athletic department knew. Sandusky was told he would have no chance to succeed Paterno. At the height of his career, he resigned and was not hired by anyone else.
They knew.
You have absolutely no proof of what you just stated other than freeh’s cobbled nonsense of a report.
If you think that JVP, Tim Curley, Spanier, and others knew that kids were being abused and did nothing about it, you’re insane. Sorry.
As for JS, he was a Jets’ firing of Al Groh away from becoming UVA’s head coach. JS was told he would never succeed JVP (by JVP) because he didn’t have the drive and the attention span. He spent too much time on the second mile.
As for any other coaches “knowing” something - you are accusing a LOT of quality people of something really bad with a blanket statement that makes no sense, and frankly stinks. Not quite fair either.
I read Freeh’s report. I read the news accounts. I have a brain. And I am not emotionally attached to the school or situation.
From the response of the coach who walked in on Sandusky to the actions of Paterno and the PSU administration, they handled this horribly. I don’t think PSU supporters “see” how bad this was. PSU supporters have spent almost all their energy attacking Freeh and the NCAA.
You read the freeh report? Really? Are you sure you didn’t just read the freeh report “summary”? Where freeh takes his nothing investigation and turns it into JVP roadkill so his customer (the PSU bot) can justify their actions.
Are you sure you read the whole report? Are you sure?
I needed NO information from Freeh’s report to know that that Spanier, Curly and Paterno needed to be fired on the spot.
You sound just like the PSU supporters who have been defending everything Penn State since this entire mess was made public.
No more reason to discuss this.
So did you read the report or not? If not, why did you state that you did?
My guess is you’ve gotten your information from media headlines and summaries and you’re happy with where things are at right now. Of course you don’t want to discuss it.
You are an idiot. Blame the dead guy is all you have. Discovery will be your downfall. Get ready to eat cold crow.
I’m still confused. Did you read the report or not? If you actually did, we wouldn’t be arguing. If you didn’t (which is the truth), you shouldn’t have said you did. Why claim you read something when you didn’t?
Blame the dead guy?
I blame Sandusky for his crimes.
I blame McQueery (sp?) for not stopping it on the spot. He should have called law enforcement RIGHT THEN.
I blame Paterno for not calling Law Enforcement AS SOON AS HE HEARD and for not vigorously following up.
I blame the PSU administration for not banning Sandusky from the PSU buildings after the FIRST incident.
What was MM to stop? He didn’t see anything wrt V2. Even V2 gave statements and wrote letters to newspapers saying nothing happened in the shower that night.
You do know that the GJ Presentment was a bunch of lies (anal rape) to attract more victims don’t you? MM himself said as much.
I don’t think you know as much about this mess as you purport to.
Hmm, let me remember what I read two years ago.....
I have read large quantities of various reports. I seem to remember reading Freeh’s report, hence my saying I read the report. I’m not going to search my computers for a copy of the report just to satisfy your misguided argument.
You said “If you actually did, we wouldn’t be arguing.”
You are a Penn State partisan bent on blaming Freeh for screwing up, blaming the NCAA for unjust punishment, and blaming the Board of Trustees for firing Paterno. I understand your desire to protect an icon like Paterno. But the Penn State nation needs to wake up and smell the truth.
Sandusky was a monster. PSU was warned of his behavior and treated it like a small alcohol problem. The PSU administration’s actions were revolting. Paterno either wasn’t that concerned or was too old to realize the implications of what Sandusky was doing.
“If you actually did, we wouldn’t be arguing.”
I don’t think you read what I posted. I did not have to read ANYTHING Louis Freeh wrote to realize that the PSU Administration and Paterno all needed to be fired.
Ya’ll are bent out of shape over Freeh’s report and his motives. You should be bent out of shape that your administration let a child molester use the PSU athletic complex for molesting children, and is more concerned about how THEY look than what actually happened in the locker room and showers.
Justly or unjustly, the NCAA hammered the PSU football program. You can fight all you want, that damage is done. Fighting over Freeh’s report will not repair the damage Sandusky did to those children nor will it restore the faith in the PSU administration.
Might as well end this conversation. I don’t care what the Freeh report said. I care what the News Media reported and what the principles said and did, and what the prosecution did.
Yeah man, it was all lies. No one did anything wrong. It was all a setup. They were out to get us.
You don’t know shit about this case. Educate yourself sometime.
You don’t even know - or realize - that PSU is a co-defendant in this case. Corman is suing the NCAA and PSU.
That’s how complicated it is.
Again, if you think JVP or Curley knew, you’re just wrong. If the PA OAG had anything on TC/GS/GS, there would be a trial date. It’s been THREE YEARS. JS was convicted in 7 months! So much for the 6th Ammendment.
No one knows the truth. Many assumptions on your part which are known lies. Be ready to eat cold crow.
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