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1 posted on 12/04/2014 1:08:12 PM PST by SJackson
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One of my favorite places. I think it's a fine idea. IMO the more people who visit and experience these places, the more support for parks and the environment. Not everyone will or can hike down, I think the impact of a lift of some sort is easily manageable. As to a gondola 25 miles away ruining the pristine South Rim, give me a break, tell them to turn around for a "pristine" view. Given the fact that it's built up, I think a lift in the central corridor would be fine. But then I was OK with the quotations from Psalms too

2 posted on 12/04/2014 1:15:27 PM PST by SJackson (incompetent and feckless..the story of the Obama presidency. No hand on the f***ing tiller, Hillary)
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3 posted on 12/04/2014 1:18:44 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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Predictable. You just knew the local Indians would come out boo-hooing about how the land is “sacred” and no development can be done unless it’s a casino/hotel complex dedicated to Waukon Tonka.


4 posted on 12/04/2014 1:26:52 PM PST by IronJack
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How about a zip line/tram to that secretive archaeological cave the government has blocked from investigative or public access?
7 posted on 12/04/2014 1:51:42 PM PST by Cold Heart
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“We don’t want to see the site desecrated,” she said. “We don’t want the tram out there. We don’t want people out here.”

The article mistakenly names a Renae Yellowhorse as the “she” referenced in that quote.

Shouldn’t he name be Mrs. NIMBY, that’s Nimby as in Not In By Back Yard?

For an ‘Indigenous Person’, she sure sounds like an Urban enviro-commie.

If her tribe actually owns the land under discussion, then she is speaking as a property owner. If not MS Nimby is just another “Protected Class” mouthpiece with an agenda.


8 posted on 12/04/2014 1:52:07 PM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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These 21st century “Indians” just kill me with their made up wild west names. Yellow Horse, Eagle Feather, Mangy Dog and such. How squaw, you takum shiny beads to ridum magic sky canoe to gift shop to spend much wampum? Should all us of European descent wear big hats and shoes with giant buckles? These poor indians are nearly as pathetic as all the Negro “slaves” still running around.


9 posted on 12/04/2014 1:55:30 PM PST by 762X51
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Tusayan has no water - we stayed there a few years ago, and followed the tons of water trucks working their way into town......the hotel showers (at the time, and probably still) had automatic shutoffs after just a few moments.


18 posted on 12/04/2014 2:34:37 PM PST by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign. ###)
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I was in that area this summer. There was an old church down off the main road. The area was closed.

When I was at a local gas station I asked one of the Navaho cops about it. (I wanted to go take pictures of it.). The cop told me it was closed to the public as it was “sacred” ground.

I told him we have Catholic Churches in the east too. They too are “sacred” ground. But we don’t lock them away from everyone.

He looked at the ground and laughed. Then he said that the teenagers were sneaking up there to drink on Saturday nights and the priest was sick of picking up beer cans and condoms off the front steps.

It is beautiful land...but I am no fan of the indigenous peoples.


22 posted on 12/04/2014 3:15:22 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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Indians are the ruin of nations. The USA had the least of them, and had the most developed culture and economy in the western hemisphere. Now they are flooding across the borders, and our country is doomed to become another mexico...

It is sad that it happens, and it is sad that no one admits that it happens.


31 posted on 12/05/2014 8:47:14 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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