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Does Richard III's DNA question the Queen's right to the throne? Analysis reveals relative of
UK Daily Mail ^
| December 2, 2014
| Fiona McCrae and Sarah Griffiths
Posted on 12/02/2014 11:06:51 AM PST by C19fan
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Dude....Someone needs to do some genealogy and determine given which male relative was cuckolded who should be the proper monarch of the United Kingdom. The current residents of Buckingham might need to be sent packing. Although ultimately it is Parliament who determines the monarch; see the 1701 Act of Succession.
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posted on
12/02/2014 11:06:51 AM PST
by
C19fan
To: C19fan
Richard III was defeated in battle and overthrown. No relative of his has any right to the thrown. You’d have a better chance restoring the monarchy in France.
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posted on
12/02/2014 11:13:15 AM PST
by
Cowboy Bob
(They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
To: C19fan
who knows? Maybe it will turn out that this guy is the new king.
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posted on
12/02/2014 11:13:18 AM PST
by
fhayek
To: C19fan
Dumbest idea I’ve heard.
Garbage story and probably garbage science.
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posted on
12/02/2014 11:14:34 AM PST
by
ifinnegan
To: fhayek
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posted on
12/02/2014 11:14:46 AM PST
by
Old Sarge
(Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
To: C19fan
I will hesitantly and uneasily come forward and claim the crown and the hundreds of billions of pounds that go with it.
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posted on
12/02/2014 11:15:19 AM PST
by
2ndDivisionVet
(The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
To: C19fan
BO is, already, King, so, give him to the U.K. Let the U.S. elect Ted Cruz to become the next POTUS!
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posted on
12/02/2014 11:16:55 AM PST
by
johnthebaptistmoore
(The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
To: C19fan
Watch, it’ll end up being John Goodman.
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posted on
12/02/2014 11:17:29 AM PST
by
Riley
(The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
To: C19fan
John of Gaunt had a mistress, Katherine deRoet, from whom the Beauforts descended. (Katherine’s sister, Phillipa, was married, unhappily, to Geoffry Chaucer) Katherine was John’s mistress through two marriages and they married after the second wife’s death. The Church of England eventually gave full privileges to Katherine and John’s bastard children, the Beauforts, from whom the line has descended. (”Katherine” by Anya Seaton, is an entertaining novel covering the whole period)
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posted on
12/02/2014 11:19:40 AM PST
by
gorush
(History repeats itself because human nature is static)
To: C19fan; BuckeyeTexan; TheMom; Tax-chick; GraceG
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posted on
12/02/2014 11:27:25 AM PST
by
KC_Lion
(Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
To: C19fan
Current British royal family is entirely German, from House of Hanover and Battenberg. No relation to House of York or Lancaster.
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posted on
12/02/2014 11:36:16 AM PST
by
Argus
To: Riley
To: gorush
I read that book in my ‘teens. John of Gaunt is one of the key figures of the period, a classic strongman.
Regarding the article, piffle. The connection between the Mountbatten-Windsors and the House of York is completely irrelevant. Parliament made William of Orange king, and Parliament made George of Hanover king.
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posted on
12/02/2014 11:40:33 AM PST
by
Tax-chick
(R.I.P., Dad, 11/25/14. Thanks for the lawyers, guns, and money.)
To: Argus
Wasn’t George I the great grandson of James I?
To: Tax-chick
“Katherine Swynford” by Alison Weir is a more scholarly treatise on the same subject, also worth the read IMHO. (My interest stems in part from my relationship to the deRoet family and part from my love of the study of history...that and $2.00 will get me a cuppa tea anywhere)
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posted on
12/02/2014 11:48:42 AM PST
by
gorush
(History repeats itself because human nature is static)
To: gorush
my relationship to the deRoet family Cool! I'm related to Black Jack Pershing.
I read all the historical novels about the queens by Victoria Holt and the Anya Seton ones, when I was a girl, but I haven't picked up many of the more recent biographies.
However, a recent book about Anne Boleyn gave the impression that there's little more fact to the "nonfiction" books than the fiction, because the sources are so limited.
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posted on
12/02/2014 11:54:27 AM PST
by
Tax-chick
(R.I.P., Dad, 11/25/14. Thanks for the lawyers, guns, and money.)
To: Tax-chick
Weir’s book makes that same point about the dearth of information. It all occurred during the great plague outbreaks in Europe in the 14th and 15th centuries.
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posted on
12/02/2014 11:57:32 AM PST
by
gorush
(History repeats itself because human nature is static)
To: Tax-chick
The Gaunt in John of Gaunt actually referred to Gent, Belgium. The deRoet’s came from that area. Today, here, the name is Roets.
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posted on
12/02/2014 12:03:55 PM PST
by
gorush
(History repeats itself because human nature is static)
To: gorush
It was very interesting to read about the sources: what little objective documentary evidence existed, and how sources from a hundred years or more later, with no particular authority, became “facts” about Anne Boleyn, just because they were “old” when the next writer came along.
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posted on
12/02/2014 12:05:36 PM PST
by
Tax-chick
(R.I.P., Dad, 11/25/14. Thanks for the lawyers, guns, and money.)
To: gorush
Huh, I didn’t know that, although I had a vague memory that Katherine and Philippa were from somewhere in continental Europe.
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posted on
12/02/2014 12:13:42 PM PST
by
Tax-chick
(R.I.P., Dad, 11/25/14. Thanks for the lawyers, guns, and money.)
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